The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you for that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you very much. Mr Witty, you are last but not least.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you very much for that.
I thank all our guests this morning for their very helpful contributions to our deliberations. We will continue to take evidence on this issue over the next few weeks, because fiscal sustainability and long-term fiscal pressures are always on committee members’ minds.
Without further ado, I call a break until 11.10 to enable a changeover of witnesses and to give members a break.
11:05 Meeting suspended.Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I am not going to pursue that matter, because there are a number of issues that I want to cover, but I am sure that colleagues will want to come in and explore it further.
Cabinet secretary, in your opening statement, you talked about £649 million to mitigate UK austerity. If that money is being used to mitigate UK austerity, it is not being spent on devolved services. We heard the concerns that were raised by the college sector earlier this morning, whose budget for the year is roughly £649 million. You will be aware that that budget has been cut by 17 per cent in real terms over the past five years. Surely, the issue of poverty is one of opportunity cost. The colleges have robustly argued that investing in skills, training and employability, as opposed to larger benefit payments, for example, will ultimately have greater benefits for the individuals themselves, the economy and society, and that it will make Scotland more fiscally sustainable. Is opportunity cost not one of the big issues that we have to face at this time? You said that there is not a black hole, but the funding gaps that the Government faces are around £1 billion for the next financial year and £2.6 billion by 2029-30.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
You have said that, at the moment, the figure is about £1.2 billion over and above the block grant adjustment. The Scottish Fiscal Commission is saying that it is £1.3 billion and that it will go up to £1.5 billion.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
The FSDP says that operational delivery improvements
“will focus on improving performance and productivity alongside the delivery of internal savings and efficiencies, such as the continued automation of some payments”.
There are no numbers against that, which is an issue that always concerns the committee. If we are talking about a Scottish Government budget gap of £1,070 million going into the next financial year, we need numbers on things such as that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I referred to that earlier when I said that 57 per cent of people on universal credit are in work.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. You have put in quite a stretch today—it is very much appreciated.
With that, we will have a two-minute break to allow the official report and broadcasting to leave, along with our guests, and then we will go into a brief private session.
13:17 Meeting continued in private until 13:30.Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I must say that you referenced old technology in your submission, but not new technology.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Frankly, there is a fear of the unknown in many organisations. They think, “We’re going to have to adopt this, but do we have to do it this week?” or, “What’s the implication going to be for the workforce and the whole structure.” I led the first debate on AI in the Parliament, way back in 2018, and the information that we had then about the impact on employment was completely different from the information now. At that time, the sectors that we were told would be most adversely affected and those that would be boosted were completely different from the scenario now. That issue is still being grappled with.
I will move on to capital investments in a couple of minutes, because a few people mentioned that in their written submissions, but a couple of folk want to come in at the moment.