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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You do not need to leave us—you just got here. [Laughter.]

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You said in your submission:

“We must stress the importance of a discounted levy rate for schemes on previously developed land. ”

How would that work?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Another question that I seem to find myself asking every year is about pensions. For example, the justice and home affairs portfolio received an additional £122.6 million, of which £72.7 million relates to police and fire pensions. There is another £141.9 million addition for NHS and teacher pension costs. As I said last year, surely the Government knows more than one year in advance what pensions are likely to be for the number of teachers, firefighters or police officers. I can understand that the estimate might not be exact, but there seems to be a chronic underestimation of what those costs will be, with multimillion-pound increases every year to make up for that. What is the Scottish Government doing to assess those figures more accurately and effectively so that we do not see the same extent of adjustment next year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I am not suggesting that we change those; I am suggesting that there is concern about the accuracy of the figures, which means that the autumn budget revisions need to be revised more than perhaps they should be. It is about trying to get accuracy in the figures.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Unfortunately, those are the realities that we have to face. That is why we are discussing an up-front levy. When a local authority supports a housing development, it tends to put a bond in place so that, when all the shenanigans go on, there is still money to repave the roads, put bollards in and all the rest of it. That could include fixing the sewers, which are sometimes not installed properly.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you. Eight or nine months on from the budget, the range and extent of some of the changes is incredible. I understand that, as you pointed out, the health and social care budget has increased by £697.1 million, which is welcome, but £667.8 million of that has been transferred into finance and local government portfolios. Although the net changes are not quite as significant, I wonder whether you can talk us through some of those changes.

At every autumn budget revision—and, often, at spring revisions—the committee raises the fact that the same budget lines are moved every year. The committee has raised concerns about that. Will you talk us through those at this time?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The Government is hoping to raise £30 million a year from the levy. If it were to introduce all the exemptions that have been suggested, what would the levy bring in, other than zero? I cannot see there being many areas in which the levy will bring in any revenue for the Government.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

There is more that I could ask about, but colleagues want to come in.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That figure represents about three or four days’ expenditure by the Scottish Government.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Kenneth Gibson

If the money is moved every year, it should be allocated to where it is going to be spent.