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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
The issue is not only how long we live, but how long we live in good health. That is a major issue, certainly in the area that I represent, where the average age at which people go out of good health is as low as 56—in other words, people can live in ill health for 15 to 20 years. That is a major issue for the individuals concerned, never mind for budgetary considerations.
I am keen to look at what you say about the annual budget gaps. You say:
“We also assume the UK Government does not take action to address its own fiscal sustainability challenges.”
Why would it not do that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Okay. I open up the session to colleagues around the table.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
As an example, the Scottish Fiscal Commission’s stuff is written in straightforward, plain English, with lots of explanations at the end of all the acronyms. How would you improve on that, if you feel that it is something that should be improved?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I am going to challenge some of them in a minute, to be honest with you.
You are talking about bits and bobs from different countries. There is no real gold standard; there is not one country that does everything. We should not try to emulate anywhere 100 per cent. We cannot do that, because the Scottish Parliament is a devolved body whereas the countries that we are talking about are independent countries with different statuses, apart from anything else. I suppose that we could look at the land or estates or whatever. However, if we are talking about international best practice, it is important to tell us where that international best practice is, so that we can look at it.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I see that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
There is a difference between best practice and adequate standards. Describing something as adequate is like saying that it is struggling. Best practice is a different thing altogether—it means that you are trying to be the best. Are you saying that, in Scotland, we are below average in these areas?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
One of the issues for this committee is that we want the committees to have a greater role in the budgets for their areas. From my perspective, I feel that committees sometimes think that budgets are just the job of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. As a result, I do not think that MSPs in the main have as sound a knowledge of the Parliament’s budget and its intricacies as they perhaps should have. That is why we are asking that kind of question.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
On the wider budget process and our call for evidence, we asked in question 4 how the MTFS is currently used by parliamentary committees. From your answer, which is quite detailed, it appears that you have completely body-swerved that part of the question.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
That is very clear in your document. You raised concerns about that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Kenneth Gibson
In paragraph 4.9 of your report, you say that
“There has been a decline in Scottish healthy life expectancy since 2014-16.”
That was based on the 2019 to 2021 figures, and Covid may have had an impact on those figures. Given that, for example, smoking has decreased and younger people are not the boozers that people in your generation were, Graeme, why is that happening? Think of the rubbish that we used to get fed in the 1960s and 1970s, compared with the quality food that we have now. The air is also cleaner, and all the rest of it. Is it because of mental health or other issues? Why is it that the healthy life expectancy has not continued to improve? Poverty is also lower than it was a few years ago.