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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
The FSDP says that operational delivery improvements
“will focus on improving performance and productivity alongside the delivery of internal savings and efficiencies, such as the continued automation of some payments”.
There are no numbers against that, which is an issue that always concerns the committee. If we are talking about a Scottish Government budget gap of £1,070 million going into the next financial year, we need numbers on things such as that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I referred to that earlier when I said that 57 per cent of people on universal credit are in work.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. You have put in quite a stretch today—it is very much appreciated.
With that, we will have a two-minute break to allow the official report and broadcasting to leave, along with our guests, and then we will go into a brief private session.
13:17 Meeting continued in private until 13:30.Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
The part of your submission that I started on was how to incentivise employers to recruit, retain and retrain older workers. How do you get them to do that and change their mindset?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I have a wee anecdote from when I was in Glasgow City Council: the council used to win all the training awards for the best construction workers; the private businesses would hoover them all up at the end of the training course and the council would be left with the others, so to speak. That was way back in the 1990s.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I am sorry; I thought that you wanted to come in on the back of John Mason’s question.
I want to move on to the issue of capital. We are about an hour in, we have another half hour to go, and I want to move on if we can. Everybody will have an opportunity to sum up at the end of the meeting. So, if we have missed anything or you feel we have not covered something, we can touch on it then.
Elaine Morrison, in your submission, you state that
“A low level of capital to support workers is a key cause of the UK’s relatively low labour productivity”,
and you go on to say that
“it would take almost a century to catch up with the capital intensity of higher productivity peer countries”.
That is quite a depressing prospect. You also say that it would take that long
“Even if the UK was able to increase its investment rate by about 4%-points”.
You go on to say:
“The UK has firm-level barriers including risk-aversion, investment constraints and cultural issues”.
What are those constraints, and how do we overcome them?
10:30Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
No, I am asking what you think the Scottish Government should do with the resources that it has. I am not asking—
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
I was going to come to you next anyway, Stacey, because you wanted to come in anyway—you can come in on whatever you wish. You said that you are keen to see an increased share of public contracts being awarded to small local firms. Your submission says that you have found that
“while some barriers had been removed following the introduction of the Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014, others persisted.”
What are those barriers?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
You have said that you would support
“the introduction of statutory targets on how much is spent by public bodies with small businesses each year.”
How would that work practically? A small business may not produce a specific product that a public body might require. In general, how would setting statutory targets align with the aim to make Scotland more competitive?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Kenneth Gibson
My area, North Ayrshire, has done similarly.