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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 February 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Indeed. The committee has been calling for it for years.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

You also talked in your opening statement about social security. Paragraph 5.6 of the report states:

“the number of people receiving PIP in England and Wales increased by 45 per cent, while the number of people receiving ADP and PIP in Scotland increased by 57 per cent.”

Why is that? Figure 5.7 shows spending on adult disability payment rising significantly between 2025-26 and 2026-27—by some £452 million, which is around 12 per cent, in a single year. Why is there a difference between the rates in the two countries?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

But there are so many more applications in Scotland that it still means that there is a significant increase.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

It is a practice that you know to be inaccurate. You are forecasting, and Governments must take decisions, but it is kidology if we all know that, factually, it is an underestimate of the reduction in what the capital spend can achieve.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

I think that Eleanor Ryan wants to come in.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

There will be only one more question from me. First, I should say that I always find it a bit bizarre that everyone talks about whether 50 or 55 per cent of people, or whatever the figure is, are better off in terms of income tax. We all know that band D council tax in Scotland is about £770 less than it is in England, so that is a significant tax saving for most people who pay that tax.

Have your forecasts over the past five years proven to be more or less accurate than those of the OBR?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

In the past, you have said that the OBR has overestimated, for example, productivity growth. Clearly, you feel that the SFC’s forecasts have proven to be more accurate.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

Okay—thank you.

Professor Bell, one of the difficulties for the Scottish Government is that it is really at the mercy of whenever the UK Government decides to have its budget, and it just has to get on with it. We saw in the period from 30 October 2024 to 26 November 2025 four weeks being taken out of the whole process, but our budget still has to be passed before the new financial year, so that local authorities, health boards and everybody else knows what their budget is, council tax can be set and so on. What, if anything, can the Scottish Government do about that kind of difficult situation in which, effectively, it just has to take what is given to it, with regard to the timing of budget decisions?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Kenneth Gibson

One point that not only the Scottish Parliament but other devolved Parliaments have made is that there is no real consultation on that issue. Is that right, Professor Spowage?