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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for your contributions this morning. We will continue to take evidence as part of our inquiry at our meeting on 21 May. That concludes the public part of today’s meeting.

The next item on the agenda, which we will discuss in private, is consideration of our work programme.

11:33 Meeting continued in private until 11:58.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Okay. Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for that very comprehensive answer, Audrey.

Of course, the Scottish Government has said that it

“is committed to the establishment of a Victims and Witnesses Commissioner”

and that it would fill an identified accountability gap. Did the committee recognise any accountability gap that needed to be filled?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, there is a perception that there are gaps, but there is also concern about duplication.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

We are well aware of the issues that developed there. I know that you are talking about a vacuum of accountability, which you have said should be explored, but what is your instinct about where, ultimately, responsibility for that should lie: the Parliament, the Government or the commissioner?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you for your welcome contributions and, also, I hope you start feeling a lot better, Clare, and that we will soon see you back here at the ranch.

Without further ado, I call a five-minute break in order for our witnesses to leave and other witnesses to settle in.

10:38 Meeting suspended.  

10:45 On resuming—  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Welcome back, everyone. We will continue taking evidence for our inquiry into Scotland’s commissioner landscape.

I welcome to the meeting Sue Webber, convener of the Education, Children and Young People Committee, and Martin Whitfield, convener of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee.

I will open up the session to questions from members, given that there are no opening statements. First, how do the committees scrutinise the performance of the commissioners within their remits?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

I will open up the session to colleagues around the table. The first will be Liz Smith, to be followed by Ross Greer.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

Thank you.

Turning to Clare Haughey, I note that your committee took a somewhat different view on a patient safety commissioner for Scotland. You said:

“It is important to ensure public confidence and trust in the healthcare system in Scotland.”

What was it that you felt was lacking that a commissioner could deliver?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Kenneth Gibson

The committee is not keen, but if that goes ahead, you want a sunset clause. Is that right?