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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 January 2026
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

—being criminalised without the opportunity of having been heard.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

Can we ask NatureScot when it will invite someone from the Scottish Gamekeepers Association to join its board? It is strange that there is a group that represents the people who work daily on the land but that is completely unrepresented on NatureScot, as far as I understand? Those people are not sitting clattering keyboards—they are not keyboard warriors. They are actually managing nature and looking after animals for which they care deeply. NatureScot is denied the opportunity of the centuries of experience of people who care deeply for the countryside and the animals of Scotland.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

An amendment to the Animals and Wildlife (Penalties, Protections and Powers) (Scotland) Act 2020 that dealt with the ban on shooting of mountain hares was passed at stage 3. Is it correct to say that the Scottish Government did not consider any evidence whatsoever from falconers in relation to that measure?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

No, I was not the cabinet secretary who was responsible for that bill.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

You could maybe check that out.

I will move on, minister. You said that falconry could be carried out in other parts the country. We have heard from the petitioner—who has looked into the matter—that the only part of the country where they would be able to practise their sport without risking prosecution is Harthill service station. You have said that they can carry out their sport in other parts of the country. In which other parts of the country can they carry out their sport legitimately and without fear of prosecution, should their birds take mountain hares?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

From the point of view of a falconer, if a falconer lets his bird of prey go and it takes a hare, the population of hares will be okay if the activity is concentrated on grouse moors where the land is properly managed, but there are other populations of hares.

The problem for falconers is that practising their sport exposes them to prosecution. Is that factually correct, or do you dispute that?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

Moving on from that—

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

In that case, they are open to prosecution, so we are back to square 1, minister, with a group of people in Scotland—

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

If that argument applies, falconry cannot be carried out because it might take a few mountain hares. You have not answered the factual question about the impact of falconry on hares, but the evidence that we have heard—and that you have seen—is that the impact is negligible, infinitesimal, nugatory and irrelevant. You have not disputed that evidence. If you have, or if Mr Dignon has, further factual evidence, I would be very grateful if you could supply the committee with that after the meeting.

The point I want to put to you is this: you are saying that falconry is finished. Falconry cannot be practised because those who practice it face the risk of carrying out a criminal activity and therefore cannot practice their sport in Scotland. You are saying that that is correct and justified because of a law that was passed in respect of which those people had no opportunity whatsoever to be heard. Is that not a preposterous proposition?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Fergus Ewing

I have two points. First, I note that Jackie Baillie referred to a PWC report on the cost of the tunnels. I am looking in our papers to see whether there is specific reference to that; perhaps there is, and I have missed it. I would be keen to get more details on that, and copies of the documents, in order to look into the points that Ms Baillie made about the relative costings, which we need to look at carefully.

Secondly, I know from when I formerly represented Lochaber a rather long time ago—when Mr Sweeney was even younger than he currently is—that, among people living in the Oban and Argyll area who are also served by the A82, there is huge support for upgrading the A82 along Loch Lomond side. Sadly, that has been the case for many decades.

I wonder whether, for fairness, we might reach out to the community—perhaps to the chamber of commerce. I know that some individuals in Lochaber and Argyll were involved, because they have strong views about the importance of proceeding with the upgrade of the road.