Skip to main content
Loading…

Seòmar agus comataidhean

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Criathragan Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 February 2026
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 1784 contributions

|

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

The inventory was done in 2021 and the figures are from a 2022 UK Government publication.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

We need to ensure that the funding is in place and that the funding profile will meet the needs that are there.

A lot of work is going on in the background on that. As you can imagine, with an analysis of how many SBAs are going to come through, we will be able to see the balance between full remediation, partial remediation, no remediation required or a green light to say that the building is fine. We will be able to profile what the required spend will be over five, 10, 15 or 20 years as things begin to ramp up.

It is difficult to give an absolute analysis now, but the funding will be put in place. We are not going to embark on a remediation process for orphan buildings and then not see it through to completion as quickly as possible. However, the SBA process will take time. It requires high-level specialist technical skills, and that has proven to be a bit of an issue. Apologies that I cannot remember the exact specialist roles involved, but the engineers are looking at how they can bolster that and ensure that the skills are there. My worry is that it will take time if we have a backlog of SBAs that are all waiting for the same people to come in and do the assessment.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

—and we will undoubtedly have to add significantly more than that. We will do that at the pace at which the single building assessments are carried out.

Developer remediation is also taking place, and they are getting on with the buildings for which they are responsible. Here, we are talking about buildings for which no developer is responsible. Work is on-going in many buildings that developers are responsible for themselves, and it is quite right that that should be the case.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

We had quite a lot of discussion about that. My initial view was that that would have been the quickest and easiest route, but there was no agreement to do that.

There are some complications. Stephen Lea-Ross alluded to a major difference with regard to the legislation on ownership, freeholders and all of that. I think that it would have been possible to legislate for the UK as a whole but there was no agreement. Therefore, we had to craft legislation that was in line with UK legislation but that could take account of the differences. UK legislation might have been quicker and easier, but we are where we are.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

We want to reflect on those operational issues. I am open-minded about what approach to take. We want to collect the levy in the most efficient and effective way possible, but we want to consider the approach further.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

I have just met with respondents and I listened to those concerns. We could not have a situation in which developers contributed to the cost of remediation of orphan buildings in England and Wales but not in Scotland. I would find that difficult to defend. Michael Marra made the point that developers might feel that they are being taxed twice. However, someone has to pay for the remediation of buildings where there is no developer, and it is not fair that that falls exclusively on the public purse. It is important that there is a developer contribution in recognition of the fact that there is a problem and that a solution must be found to remediate those buildings.

I also made the point that developers’ contribution is just that—a contribution. It will not fund the programme for remediating orphan buildings. That will still require a significant investment of taxpayers’ money—public money.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

There are also the single building assessments that developers are taking forward, and the work that the public sector is taking forward on its own buildings. We are focusing on those buildings for which there is no ownership or responsibility. I think that the pace will increase and that a number of buildings will be rapidly assessed as being okay. Not every building will require the same input of time, effort and remediation. We will be able to clear those buildings and give them the green light, and then we will be able to focus remediation on the buildings that require it. I do not think that it is fair to just say that 100 buildings a year would take 14 years. That is a very blunt tool.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

Once we are up and running with the SBAs, I think that they will gather pace, particularly for more straightforward buildings. We want to be transparent about this and we will give regular updates on what the pace is once we have the systems fully up and running.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

—what lies behind that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Shona Robison

We will come back to you on that specific point.