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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
The advice that came back was about costings and the likely impact on the number of children who would be kept out of poverty. The 15,000 figure has been superseded to some degree by the Fraser of Allander Institute saying that it could be higher than that and that
“20,000 children would be kept out of poverty”.
At the time, that work was presented to us in terms of the costings. The SFC has now given us its analysis of the costings, which is at the higher end of what we had thought.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
It is the third sector organisations that we took advice from. Bearing in mind the fact that we have a statutory duty to reduce child poverty rates, the First Minister asked us to go further in tackling child poverty and so he charged us to go further in discussions with those child poverty organisations. Mitigating the two-child cap was their clear recommendation to us.
After ministers discussed that at some length, we asked for costings and how many children would be lifted out of poverty and so on, and that is what is in front of Parliament, for it to vote for or not to vote for.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
No. No ministerial direction has been required. In the context of civil service, every policy and spend will be reminders of the overall fiscal position and sustainability. That happens with every policy. However, Michael, your party wanted us to do it from this April, which would have had an even bigger cost, about which the Scottish Fiscal Commission might have had something to say. I think that we are all agreed on the policy.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
In advance of September, I am happy to brigade together, across portfolios, the projects that are in the public domain. One of the largest projects is HMP Glasgow—there is considerable capital investment in that new prison—and I have talked about affordable housing. We could brigade other projects together across portfolios if that would be helpful.
The infrastructure investment plan will give a line of sight for multiyear projects—when they will begin their process, the earlier stages in the business cases and their delivery. We need multiyear capital envelopes in order to give certainty to the public sector in relation to taking forward projects.
In response to your question, convener, if we can provide further information across portfolios, and if it would be helpful to brigade that information in one place in advance of that work, I will be happy to come back to the committee with that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
I do not believe that the chancellor had no options that could have avoided the impact that the employer national insurance contribution hike will have. Whether through income tax or wealth taxes, various options were available to the chancellor that she would probably have preferred, but she boxed herself in to not being able to use them, and this is the result.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
If you were to ask the chancellor whether she thinks that it has been a success, she would probably express huge concerns about what is now unfolding. These are debates that will, no doubt, be had this afternoon, but as far as I am concerned, the ENICs increase is a tax on the public sector and businesses that will have an impact for quite some time. As a lever, it seems to fly in the face of the policy objective of economic growth.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
Let us see whether I can improve on that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
It is a source of regret that there has been no reform, which has needed to happen, and we are back to having the same debates.
My offer is to work with all the parties to find areas where progress can be made—if it is fairly limited, that is still better than nothing. We will see where we get to in the various discussions.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
I think that we can forget about it for the foreseeable future.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Shona Robison
Of course. I do not disagree with the First Minister—