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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

All Governments could be bolder, but they have to be able to get things through the Parliament. I am afraid to say that, although we could have brought forward 101 bold plans, I am not sure how many of them would have got through the Parliament. I will leave that as a question mark, but I suspect that very few would have got through, because I do not think that there is the will to engage in boldness. All that I am saying is that there is an opportunity for that to change and I hope that it will.

Incidentally, we have laid the groundwork for such change. Our efficiency plans set out that transformation must happen. That includes a reduction in head count. Even just saying that and setting it out is quite bold, and that has by no means been universally welcomed on the staff side of things.

Our plans set out our intent that the public sector must change. What needs to come next is the detail of what such change will look like in relation to the landscape, different roles and how our public services look and feel. That is the next step, but the groundwork has been done. A lot of work has gone into that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

You asked me that in the chamber, and—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

The answer is that there is always more work that can be done to outline why decisions have been made.

We have done a lot to outline why the investments that we are making in social security are important in enabling us to meet the statutory targets on child poverty. The child poverty delivery plan lays out the detail of that. Anyone who looks at the child poverty delivery plan will understand why the funding is going to social security, because it shows a trajectory towards meeting the statutory child poverty targets.

Is that level of detail laid out everywhere? Probably not. There is always scope for improvement in that regard. We need to say to people, “We’re making this investment here because it’s fundamental to economic growth in that region of Scotland. Here’s the evidence for why we think that that is the case.” There is always more that we can do to explain and justify why we are making investments.

I have referred to our major investment in housing a couple of times. We have articulated the rationale for that, which is that it is not only a major investment to help to tackle poverty, but an economic investment. That is why it was right to make that capital investment in housing. That investment has knock-on effects elsewhere—we have talked about the knock-on effects for health.

The Government of the day should justify its decisions. If more information can be set out, I would not disagree that it should be.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

I think that we have made improvements, but improvements can always be built on, and I am sure that there are ways in which we can do that. After every fiscal event, we always reflect on what people—whether external commentators or this committee—have said. Certainly in relation to the budgets that I have been involved in, we have always listened to what the committee has said. We might not have completely satisfied all the asks that the committee has made, but they have not been ignored. We have made changes and improvements, and that will be the case in relation to the current set of fiscal documents, too. We will look at what has been said and consider whether there is scope to make further improvements.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

First, I want to agree with your point that support staff play a valuable role. We are not saying that they do not—the issue is how those valuable roles will be delivered in the future.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

There needs to be a bit of a wake-up call that it is something that Parliament, and not just Government, should embrace.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

Indeed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

We are not really at that stage yet. The first thing that we need to do is to agree the scope.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

I am not unsympathetic to that point, and we have given SNIB some additional flexibility.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Shona Robison

Yes, but there is variation. In some parts, activity is much higher.