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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 February 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

You have probably heard me say at another evidence session like this, since I have been finance secretary, that I will always consider what improvements and changes can be made in the light of recommendations. We work closely with the Scottish Fiscal Commission, and we will want to look at its recommendations and reflections. If it recommends setting out the in-year transfers in a different way, we will respond to that. One reason why we have table 4.15 in the budget document is to set out clearly what the lines involved are. The answer is yes, of course.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

I will come on to the latest workforce figures.

If you look at what we have done to date, you will see that we are not going from a standing start. We have in the past delivered savings on workforce and on the single Scottish estate. We expected to save about £280 million from the work that was done over the two-year period to 2024-25, and the final figures show that the programme saved more than that—it saved more than £320 million over that period. We have saved money, and that can be demonstrated.

On workforce figures, we have seen a massive reduction in the contingent workforce—that is, contractors and those in temporary positions. We have also seen reductions in the core civil service.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

The directly employed workforce is reducing, having decreased by 1.6 per cent over the 12 months to September 2025. That is the largest reduction in the directly employed workforce in a 12-month period since 2012. There has been a reduction, but we need to go further.

The definitions of “front-line” and “back-office” are important, and we have been discussing them with the trade unions. We have a board that is responsible for the delivery of all of this, and we have been working with the trade unions to ensure that they have a voice around that table.

We could not be more serious about the need for us to change how the public landscape looks and is delivered. We need corporate services to be reduced. My budget is reducing because of the reduction in corporate services and the reduction in total operating costs. All of that is set out clearly in the budget. Is it ambitious? Yes, it is. Is it deliverable? Absolutely. It needs to be delivered, and it will be.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

What we discounted and what we decided to do are all part of ministerial business. I will provide information on what areas were discussed, what format portfolios were required to look at and what questions were provided to them. I can provide all of that, if that would be helpful.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

Work is going on with regard to what rationalisation and changes across the landscape will look like. I am sure that, during the election campaign and in their manifestos, each party will set out its view of what the public sector and the public body landscape should look like.

I think that the housing public body will provide a very important function—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

We are absolutely committed to reducing the public sector landscape—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

We will set all of that out, as I am sure that your party will.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

—and those who work in the college. It is really important that we build confidence in a very ambitious project that the Scottish Funding Council is prioritising. Lots of detailed discussions are going on. I am sure that, if you were to ask the college, it would be able to tell you about them.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

I think that you need to speak to the college, because you are now misunderstanding the various phases of the project. The first phase is a shift out of the RAAC-affected building to Gardyne campus, and it will involve looking at the existing resources that the college has been able to identify, plus resources that are available through negotiations with the Scottish Funding Council. Those negotiations on the first phase are on-going.

The phase after that is the Wellgate centre regeneration project, and that is where the revenue finance vehicle will come into play. We are talking about two different things here.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Shona Robison

I can assure you that we are talking about two different things.