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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

I have a bit of a cold, so I hope that my voice will not disappear. What have the benefits been of the significant increase in renewables over the past 10 to 20 years? What lessons have been learned with regard to those benefits? I also want to ask about where we have missed out, but perhaps we can start with the benefits. I will go to Claire Mack first, as she represents the sector.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

I will follow up on the question that the convener asked about the extent to which the instrument will incentivise businesses to invest now, given the changes that are going to take place incrementally, but actually quite significantly, over the next few years. I was thinking particularly about the hydrogen sector and the discussions about grey, green and blue hydrogen. To what extent will the instrument support investment now because these changes are taking place?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

I will ask a question that I was going to ask much later, because it fits in here.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

That leads me on to my next question, which is about the community benefits and community ownership angle.

Professor Hannon, you said that there was a missed opportunity there and that we were not moving forward in relation to how we get the right community benefits that will benefit people in the way that is needed. Is there not a mix of community benefit opportunities and community ownership opportunities? For example, at a recent cross-party group meeting, we heard about Point and Sandwick, which has huge community benefits compared with other projects. Is there a way for the Scottish Government to encourage more community or shared ownership of renewables projects, so that the focus is not just on community benefits but on community ownership, which could involve councils, individual communities or co-operative models? How could that be delivered in practice?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

I did, convener, because I had not heard of a correction slip either, so I wanted some clarification on it. It is useful to have had that clarified on the record that such a matter can be addressed in two ways. Neither is significant, but as long as the solution gets the support of all four nations, it will be workable, and the committee will be informed. Having that on the record is really important.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

Yes, I have a follow-up question. I appreciate the comments that Gemma Grimes has just made; indeed, I know of constituents who were about to put in heat pumps and then, when the funding for the solar went, they stopped. It was all about joined-up thinking—it was about getting an incentive and then making that investment. That raises issues about supply chains and, potentially, jobs and confidence, so I very much agree with what you have just said.

You also mentioned the just transition. Some research out there suggests that, if people on lower incomes had solar panels, it could result in quite a significant benefit to their homes. Should we also be looking at homeowners in this respect, too, and trying to more solar in situ right across the sector, as it will be good for the economy, help the just transition and bring down climate emissions at the same time?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

There is also turbine production. You mentioned Berwick Bank. We could build the kit in Leith. How can we provide certainty and ensure that that actually happens? That involves not only approving a project, but ensuring that the renewables developers follow on, do the manufacturing and develop the supply chains. They will have the confidence once their project has been approved.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

Matthew, would you like to respond on what opportunities exist, what we have delivered and what more we could have done?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

I will come straight back in on that answer. Do we not miss out on joined-up thinking regionally? Is there more that the Scottish Government could do on that? You have all mentioned heat pumps in the context of heating, but you have not mentioned heat networks, which could be a good way of using electricity to provide heat where that electricity is produced.

Furthermore, on transport, EVs have been mentioned, but not railways or other big infrastructure projects that could use power close to where it is generated. I ask Claire Mack to briefly come back in on that, and then Gemma Grimes, who I see is nodding her head.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 27 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

Yes—it is it just a supplementary question for Claire Mack. A few minutes ago, you mentioned the benefits of looking at innovative shares. The vast majority of the ScotWind projects are owned by countries outwith Scotland. When I say “countries”, I mean that some Governments outwith Scotland are getting really good benefits from investing in ScotWind projects. How do we get more of those real benefits for Scotland? You talked about the national wealth fund and SNIB. If the Scottish Government took a share in projects, would there be opportunities that could give us an economic benefit as revenues come in over the years?