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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 November 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Climate Justice

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

I thank the witnesses for the submissions that you sent to us in advance, which are incredibly useful. I want to reflect on the fact that it is five years since the Paris agreement. We have a huge opportunity and obligation at COP26 in Glasgow.

I will start off with Jamie Livingstone from Oxfam. In your submission, you highlight that the Paris agreement has three pillars: mitigation; adaptation; and loss and damage. So far, most of our focus in Scotland has been on mitigation and adaptation. However, in relation to the loss and damage issue, you make a strong point about the ability of global south low-income countries to put in the required investment.

You also commented on our being the founders of the industrial revolution in Scotland. Given that COP26 is in Glasgow, and given our role historically, what can we do to redouble our efforts and push that third pillar of the Paris agreement?

Alok Sharma told the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee that we need to spend $100 billion a year over the five-year period from 2020 to 2025. Our contribution has gone up—it is doubling to £6 million—which is great. What more do we need to do if we in Scotland are going to lead?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Climate Justice

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

Yes. Your submission mentions loss and damage.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Climate Justice

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

Excellent, because I am sure that he would be able to spend that money.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Climate Justice

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

Those points are incredibly well made, so I hope that you make them when you attend COP26 virtually.

I will pick up those points with Tahseen Jafry. If Scotland uses that soft power of examples, will other countries have the appetite to address those issues and to provide pump-prime investment and education, as you talked about very powerfully? Is there a chance of getting action on that third pillar at COP26?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Climate Justice

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

In the previous session, I asked about where we are with the loss and damage pillar that was agreed as part of the Paris agreement five years ago. At a recent Commonwealth Parliamentary Association event, representatives from the Caribbean gave us graphic evidence about the impact of regular extreme weather in destroying communities. That will lead to climate refugees in the future. The final point of Dr Hill’s submission, under the heading “Assessing Scotland’s climate justice credentials”, says:

“How much Scotland pays for adaptation & loss & damage overseas, and how this compared to its fair share of global action based on historical responsibility.”

As we approach COP26, what should we be saying about that in the discussions on the third pillar of the Paris agreement?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Climate Justice

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

I will move to the Corra Foundation. You are in a position to access a raft of different donations from big organisations. Is there an appetite for addressing the loss and damage agenda from big financiers and people giving support to charities and foundations like yourselves to make that difference in the next five years?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Climate Justice

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

Chris Hegarty, do you have a comment? I cannot see whether your hand is up.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Climate Justice

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

In the previous session, I asked about where we are with the loss and damage pillar of the Paris agreement. The question was prompted, in part, by a Commonwealth Parliamentary Association presentation that I attended, in which Caribbean states talked about the massive impact of regular extreme weather incidents and said that they have no funding to rebuild, which leads to climate refugees and horrendous impacts. The final point in SCIAF’s submission says:

“How much Scotland pays for adaptation & loss & damage overseas, and how this compared to its fair share of global action based on historical responsibility.”

Do you want to come in on that, Dr Hill? We have our climate fund, but what more should we be doing in Scotland?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Culture Sector

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

It has been good to hear about the issue of getting more people to access the arts. The Museums Galleries Scotland submission highlights the commitment to everybody having a right to culture, and suggests the concept of a minimum acceptable standard of cultural provision.

We have a lot of fantastic museums, but the focus is on preserving them, rather than promoting access, and a minimum standard could address that issue, although funding them might be challenging. Perhaps you could say a bit about that, because it is an interesting idea that might promote the joining up of portfolios that we have just been talking about.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Culture Sector

Meeting date: 23 September 2021

Sarah Boyack

Would your priority be to have more multiyear funding for the theatre sector? One issue that has been raised with us is around community access and access to existing facilities. Are you considering that in relation to longer-term funding, as well as in relation to the community impact that such funding would have by supporting people to be in employment?