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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

This is a really important issue. Like the convener, I have to declare an interest in that I have a free bus pass for the over-60s. When it was introduced, I never thought that I would be using it. Having taken part in the parliamentary debates and seen evidence from constituents, I can see that there is antisocial behaviour out there. There are people who are conducting themselves in absolutely inappropriate ways, and it is putting drivers at risk, so this could not be more important.

It is important to discuss both the principle of removing people’s passes and the circumstances for doing so. I hope that we can come back to the issue, because Young Scot was not consulted, and there have been comments from the Scottish Youth Parliament and from the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland. It is really important that safeguards are in place. I would like to discuss both those things at the same time.

I would also like to hear more about travel safety officers and how they will be targeted to support the safety of bus users. The fact that people are not using buses came through in evidence from young people; they worry about using the bus now, because other people conduct themselves totally inappropriately. Where is the resource for that and how will it be targeted?

09:45

How do we raise the profile of the legislation so that young people can see it? Should it be through TV, social media, adverts and schools but also more widely? As has been commented on, it is not just young people who might abuse their bus pass by not behaving appropriately; certain other groups of people might do so, too. Could there be something in guidance and in the code of conduct? It is really important that you consider all that.

My final question is about the disability issue. Will drivers be briefed about people with Tourette’s, for example? There are some really important issues in how the legislation is implemented. People want it to be implemented, but we must ensure that the process in relation to the code of conduct is fair when Transport Scotland is considering the removal of a bus pass. I hope that the minister listens to us and that the committee has spare time to enable us to get this right, because it is so important.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

There were a couple of questions on disabilities earlier, and I raised another example. Proper guidance is needed on all those issues to make people aware of them, so I would like to hear a commitment about that. As other members have said, the two issues go together: what we are discussing today and the context. That needs to be in the code of conduct, because young people have not been consulted—we have had that feedback. Getting the two right is critical.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

Sorry, but not all young people—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

Simon Coop mentioned manufacturing. Berwick Bank and the Pentland project have just been approved, as well as loads of onshore wind projects, but we are not producing the infrastructure in Scotland. Is there more that you think that we need to do to not only create new jobs but have a joined-up approach?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

Do you not want to answer any of the specific questions that I posed about the safety issue and travel safety officers? The travel safety officers issue is not just about the code of conduct. It is also about how we get the SSI implemented effectively as a new piece of legislation that ensures that there are consequences for antisocial and disruptive behaviour on our buses.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

I would like to ask a question about joined-up thinking, which follows from John Underhill’s comment about getting confidence for investment. The draft energy strategy was published three years ago and we now have a draft climate change plan. Do we need more joined-up thinking so that we can generate investment for the private sector, whether that is for the manufacture of renewables, investment in CCUS, or hydrogen—preferably green? How do we encourage investment and confidence that such investments make sense, given the comments about heat, transport and waste? I will start with John Underhill before I go to other witnesses for a brief comment.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

I have two amendments in the group, which would ensure that

“promoting the creation of a Community Wealth Fund and the strategic use of community benefit payments from land use change and renewable energy projects”

to

“support the development of community-led projects”

was prioritised and included in the bill.

By embedding the promotion of such a fund in the bill, we would create a pathway for communities to benefit directly from the economic activity that takes place around them, not as an afterthought but as a core principle. That approach would ensure that the wealth that was generated from our natural assets and the transition to renewables was recycled back into local priorities, so that it supported projects that communities design, lead and control.

Last night, the cross-party group on islands and the cross-party group on renewable energy and energy efficiency held a joint meeting. We heard directly about the huge benefits to local communities of co-operative, community-owned and municipally owned renewables and heat projects investing in Scotland. Rather than wealth being exported, the communities directly benefit and shape the benefits. The statistic that was used last night was that less than 1 per cent of the wind energy that is produced in Scotland is from community-owned facilities. We need to make the most of that huge opportunity.

Richard Leonard’s amendments are really important. Amendments 50 and 51 make particularly important points. The importance of Co-operative Development Scotland and the Scottish National Investment Bank needs to be higher up our agenda. Both could and should play an important role, which should be reflected in legislation.

Amendment 51, which sets out that ministers must encourage Scottish Enterprise, South of Scotland Enterprise and Highlands and Islands Enterprise to practically support employee-owned companies, is crucial, because we need to ensure that such opportunities are available.

I am keen to support Lorna Slater’s amendments 41 to 45 on procurement so that local community co-operatives and social enterprises can benefit from the transition to renewables. Paul Sweeney’s amendment 119 seeks to empower and support communities through credit unions and community wealth funds.

There are many good amendments in the group. I take the minister’s point that we cannot use them all, but the ambition behind the amendments that I have mentioned is critical, and they should be included in the bill. A community wealth fund and the strategic use of community benefit payments will be crucial and will create many opportunities.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

I have two amendments in the group, which are both aimed at strengthening accountability in the community wealth building statement process.

Amendment 82 would ensure that the annual statement reports on not just the actions that are taken but their impact in delivering the aims that are set out in section 1(2). That would shift the focus from activity to outcomes so that we can see whether community wealth building is genuinely making a difference on the ground. I welcome Lorna Slater’s support for that amendment.

Amendment 83 would require ministers to set out how they have responded to any recommendations from the independent review, and, if they have not acted on them, to explain why. That would prevent recommendations from being ignored and ensure a clear line of accountability between independent scrutiny and Government action.

Together, those amendments would make the reporting process more transparent, more meaningful and more responsive to evidence. Richard Leonard’s points about transparency and inclusivity are also important. The amendments in this group are about strengthening the legislation, and I hope that colleagues can support them today.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

As a member of the Unison and Community trade unions, I want to note that is good to have you in front of us today.

There is a real issue around who pays for what and when, and you have talked about job losses and people not having opportunities. How can we ramp up the potential opportunities across every community? You talked about energy, too. I have seen a comment on the need for regional just transition planning, so that people are involved across the country and know where the new jobs are. What is your thinking on that? You mentioned the manufacturing opportunities in new transport infrastructure and sorting out people’s homes to make them energy efficient. How do we ensure that there are jobs that go with those opportunities, now and in the future?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Sarah Boyack

That is really helpful, thanks. I will hand back to you, convener.