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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Okay. It seems that no one else has thoughts on that that they wish to share at the moment.

The discussion about what happens if an organisation thinks that an offence has potentially been committed follows on quite nicely from the time issue that the convener brought up and the options for action in that context. If anyone would like to get back to us with further thoughts on that, that would be helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

I have a final question about the defence of necessity. It is included in the bill. Is it important to have it for exceptional cases?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

The issue of penalties has been mentioned already, but I would like to dive into that a bit more. The bill references penalties of up to 20 years’ imprisonment or an unlimited fine for an individual, and an unlimited fine for an organisation.

The committee has heard views that existing maximum penalties available under the 2014 act do not allow for alignment with developments in EU law under the environmental crime directive. We are interested in your views about the proportionality of the penalties in the bill.

Iain, do you want to come in first?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Clare Moran, do you want to come in on this?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

That was a very sharp response as well. Thank you. Do Rachel Killean and Ricardo Pereira agree?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Thank you. Ricardo Pereira, do you have a brief comment on that issue?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

I see that Rachel Killean wants to answer. Please be brief, because I do not want to take so much time that my colleague cannot ask his questions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

It was about the range of public bodies and the urgency of implementing sustainable development and taking a more joined-up approach to policy coherence. The Christie commission was nearly 15 years ago, and we did not take that forward. It is thinking about that policy coherence and the potential of the proposed commissioner to support the range of organisations that do not have sustainable development or wellbeing on their agendas.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Ellie, do you have any thoughts?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

On the issue of alternative options, the Carnegie UK report contained a range of different ideas, such as having a conveners forum in the Parliament to ask MSPs to do this work.

I spoke with representatives of Audit Scotland, and it would need resource, because it does not have the capacity at the moment. Other suggestions involve a Government-appointed advisory council and an independent round table. Do the witnesses have any thoughts about those alternatives and about the benefits and disbenefits of having a commissioner as a different way of doing things?

It seems not. I could probably ask questions all day, but that might not be tactically smart.