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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

I am thinking about delivery of the ambition, which is central to this. Earlier, you referenced the fact that there are different options when it comes to delivering on sustainable development principles; you mentioned Audit Scotland’s role and the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales. I spoke to Audit Scotland because I was looking at what it could do to implement those principles, but it became clear that its issue was with not that requirement but the resources needed.

In Wales, one thing that has been done to avoid overlap between commissioners is to have memoranda of understanding. What are your reflections on the practical experiences in different countries that we could learn from?

That said, if you want to up the implementation, you need to do something different. It feels as if the Government’s work has been put on hold, whereas my proposals would give you an opportunity to progress what we have both worked on for several years.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Okay. It would be interesting to get your thoughts on the different oversight and accountability options. Earlier, you helpfully said to the convener that you would be happy to give more information. At this point, that would be helpful, because who will push the issue up the agenda? As you will observe, we have had the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015 for a decade and the national performance framework for a long period, but the issue is how you implement their principles.

I wonder about the potential alignment between the principles of wellbeing and sustainable development and the national performance framework, given your comment about the numerous pieces of legislation that refer to sustainable development but do not implement its principles. What are the triggers that will lead to the changes that you are looking at?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Am I allowed to ask another question?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

What are the timescales for this? It goes back to the deputy convener’s point. We have an election next year, and this is an opportunity for the Parliament to take the bill forward now and get on with it, rather than waiting. The issue was raised during the 2021 election, and there is previous legislation that you have—absolutely correctly—referred to. Is this not a chance for us to get this legislation right so that it aligns with and supports the Scottish Government’s work? We could make it a wider accountability issue so that it is not sitting in a queue among other challenges.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Do other witnesses have thoughts on those ideas?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Okay. Murdo MacLeod, do you have a view on the issue?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

That is helpful. Do other witnesses have any comments on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

That is helpful.

My next question is about remediation being provided by an operator, rather than just a compensation payment, and the issue of the confiscation of the proceeds of crime. Does the bill go far enough in those areas, or should it go further? It has been suggested that those penalties could be imposed under existing laws, such as the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002. What do you think the best options are, whether in the bill or elsewhere?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

That is okay.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

That leads on to my next question. Section 9 of the bill extends enforcement powers in relation to ecocide. Is it sufficient to ensure that the relevant authorities will have the power to investigate a potential offence? Is there a gap in the powers of any regulatory or enforcement bodies to investigate potential severe damage to the environment within their remit?

From reading the witnesses’ expressions, I can see that they are looking reflective.