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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

Would the standards highlighted in section 3(a) be enough to curtail the power and ensure that it was used for the right reasons?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

I asked whether the proposed changes could create a hierarchy of aims for a national park. The legislation as it stands says that all aims are equal unless there is a conflict between them. I guess the concern is that, if you upset that balance, you might end up with a hierarchy of aims, and that could impact on people’s views of a national park.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

When the bill was initially proposed, there were concerns about local economies, local cultures and the like being secondary to a national park’s main aim, which is to preserve the nature and biodiversity of the park. I see more reluctance or pushback against new national parks than there was when the first legislation went through, when people were keen to have national parks in their area. The issue seems to have become a lot more controversial. Have the aims changed slightly, and has that led to a lack of confidence among those living and working in national parks?

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

That approach seems easier for Orkney and Shetland, as their sea spaces are unique to them, whereas I think that conflicts will arise in, say, the Minch, where there are several local authorities involved. How will they work together? Do they have the resources to be able to plan?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

Are there other instances where such a power would be required? Given that enforcement is an issue for you, could the bill be amended in such a way as to enable the 2017 regulations to be changed while narrowing the scope of the regulatory power that is being implemented through the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

The evidence that we had prior to this is that there is flexibility within the regulations as they stand.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

So, would you prefer an affirmative order plus a non-regression clause plus a referral back to section 3(a)?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

I have a quick supplementary, to give an example of the breadth of what is allowed. Under section 3, regulations can be made

“to ensure consistency or compatibility with other legal regimes (either domestic or international)”.

That is vast. Section 3(a) has some of the standards that should be followed, such as

“restoring, enhancing or managing the natural environment ... preserving, protecting or restoring biodiversity”

and

“environmental assessments”.

Is it possible to amend the bill to say that the powers in it can be used only in pursuit of section 3(a)? That would mean that they could not be as wide as to take in anything—they would have to be within the spirit of the bill and what we are trying to achieve here.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Rhoda Grant

What are your views on the changes to the statutory purposes for national parks? What will be the practical impact of those changes? What is wrong with the powers as they stand? Is there any likelihood that the changes could lead to a hierarchy of powers and aims?