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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 October 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Deaths in Prison Custody

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

Thank you very much.

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018: Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

Following what Rona Mackay has said, I would be interested in spending more time looking at the stalking charges. That offence is broader than domestic abuse and there are issues, with victims having reported failures in the system in relation to the law on that—but that is for another day.

Are we to assume from the paper that the changes under item 3 have already happened or been agreed? The list includes

“creating a standard condition of bail … placing a restriction on granting bail”

and

“allowing certain ... evidence”.

The paper says:

“The 2018 Act created a new offence of engaging in an abusive course of conduct ... For example, when a child sees, hears or is present during a domestic abuse incident.”

That is the point that Russell Findlay raised. It then says, “Further changes included” and lists changes. Are we to assume that those changes have all happened?

Criminal Justice Committee

Deaths in Prison Custody

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

That is some good news.

The second question that I will ask relates to the recommendation for unfettered access to information following a death in police custody, which is critically important; it is a question that I put to the cabinet secretary at the time. Given what you said about the exclusion of the Crown—in the case of Alan Marshall, as you are aware, the Crown took a decision not to prosecute any of the 13 officers who held him down before he died in an attempt to get answers at the FAI, but it took seven years to get there—is it possible for that unfettered access to happen? Families want to go in and get information; they do not want to be told that they cannot go in or collect belongings or see what happened.

I thought that the recommendation was interesting, because, if there was a police investigation into a death, how could that commitment be made? However, the cabinet secretary made it. Is it possible to devise such a system? In this case, the family’s view was that there was a cover-up. They would have preferred to have found out exactly what had happened so that they would at least have had their own answers before the FAI. Would it be possible for that to happen without the Crown’s involvement?

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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

Why 2 per cent?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

Over what period would that be?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

That is pretty stark, is it not? The committee has previously heard the projections on retirement numbers, given the pension changes. I take it that that is still on-going as well.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

Thank you very much; that is helpful.

DCC Connors, given what we have heard this morning, you must be concerned about the reputation of the Scottish police force. It is fair to say—I have said it in my 19-year career—that Scotland has had an exemplary force. We do things differently here, and there are many examples of that, including the 101 service. As the leadership of the police organisation, do you have concerns about that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

Yes—probationers. Could that programme be compromised?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

Would it be possible for the committee to get some concrete examples of where that was going to happen? I realise that I have used up my time, but it would be helpful to know how that delivery is being rolled out.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Pauline McNeill

Good morning. We will not have time to answer all my questions, but I would like to put a marker down to say that you are going awfully fast with the reform, and I plead with you to give the committee some time to understand it. Like John Swinney, I support a lot of the reforms because we need to end the churn, but I have some concerns about some of the human rights issues that are attached to virtual elements. You might have heard me talk about the shambles of virtual custodies at Glasgow sheriff court. The sheriff said that herself, and I agreed with it.

I moved an amendment to some emergency Covid legislation that the Government accepted so that virtual custodies could not proceed, so I do not understand why your written submission says otherwise. Can you explain that to me? How can you proceed against the legislation?