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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Tackling Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 14 November 2024

Pauline McNeill

I might come back on the point about medical assessment at a future date. It is worth considering whether there might be any blockages facing someone who comes forward because they think that they need help—that is, the possibility of their being rejected after making such a big step, just because of a medical assessment. As I have said, I might come back to that at another date.

I also want to ask about the fact that men are twice as heavy users of services. I do not detect a lot of discussion about the approach that we should take, given that high numbers of men are harming themselves. How is that factored into the approach that you are taking to drug misuse and stopping drug deaths?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Pauline McNeill

Good morning. Cabinet secretary, you will be aware of press reports that indicate, not for the first time, an on-going crisis in legal aid. Some press reports have said that, since 2021, we have lost more than 400 solicitors from the system. Not all of those were lost because of the legal aid situation, I am sure, but certainly a high number were. There has already been a 23 per cent drop in the number of cases that solicitors have been paid for, so there has been less demand on the budget. However, that is a flat-line budget, so, in effect, there has been a cut to legal aid.

What approach is the Scottish Government taking to the crisis, given that it has not allocated an increase in the legal aid budget, and what is the thinking behind that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Pauline McNeill

Thank you for that comprehensive answer. Fees for defence solicitors in particular have been in crisis for many years. The key question, which I do not think has been addressed by the Scottish Government, is in the way in which the rate is set. In the criminal justice system, prosecutors are paid a certain salary, but defence solicitors do not seem to have kept pace with the people that they are working alongside in the criminal courts. That is why we are losing solicitors from the profession. I know that the cabinet secretary will share my view that, if there is to be fairness in criminal justice for accused persons, it is important that we retain good solicitors in the profession. How will the budget address that specific point, and what are the cabinet secretary’s thoughts on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Pauline McNeill

Would the channels to change that be through the Scottish Government to the UK Government?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Pauline McNeill

That is a point well made. After all this time, there is no point in not rolling it out properly. We want to make sure that we minimise any issues that arise. Thank you for that.

I have one other question. In answer to another member, you said that Wales has a higher per capita—

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Pauline McNeill

I understand. I can see the sense in that: you want to ensure that front-line policing is the best that it can be. You do not mean that you would civilianise police jobs.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Pauline McNeill

My question was whether the Government has given you an indication of its response on multiyear funding.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Pauline McNeill

Chief constable, I would like to set the context for my line of questioning. I recognise the constraints of the police budget and you have clearly set out your concerns. I will follow on from Liam Kerr’s questions about the modelling that you have been asked to do for a flat cash settlement and for a cash reduction of 3 per cent. Has the Government responded to your plans for a multiyear funding arrangement and, if so, what was the response?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Pauline McNeill

Is that for police budgets?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Pauline McNeill

You know the reason that I am asking about that. There was a report in the press that you had appointed civilians to do what looks to a layperson as though it is detective work. That is why I am concerned.