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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

Professor Phoenix, do you think that there could be wider harm? I am not taking a view on criminalisation or decriminalisation. I do not know what I am asking, really—I am asking about the fundamentals. Can any law really protect women with regard to this global issue?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

Thanks. Further to that, there has also been a change to the point in a sentence at which a prisoner could be eligible for home detention curfew. It was 25 per cent into the sentence, and now it is 15 per cent into the sentence.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

Before we get to the powers that we are considering today, there is already a potential shortening of the time served in jail under those provisions, for some prisoners.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

I heard an interview with a defence lawyer who said that some of their clients who are serving time in prison and who might be released are not ready for that. They would rather be in prison so that they can access services, including rehabilitation or whatever else they think they need. Has that happened? I do not know whether Teresa Medhurst could answer that. Do you come across prisoners who do not think that they are ready to go out into the community? Is there provision to consider that?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

I am sorry to interrupt. I have listened to some sex workers who talk about their experiences of being exploited—sexually exploited—by men who ask them to do things that they did not want to do so that they went beyond what, I suppose, the initial agreement was. Surely that happens.

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

It is quite important for us to get our heads around where we are, because the situation is complex. I understand that. I found that information helpful, thank you.

Cabinet secretary, I asked you about this in the chamber yesterday. I know that there is more than one reason for the rise in the prison population. The committee also had a discussion about that with Teresa Medhurst. However, if I understood what you said yesterday—and you are not the first person to say this—it appears that there has been a rise in the number of longer sentences that the courts are handing out, for whatever reason. Is that the case?

Do you agree that it is quite important for somebody, whether it be a committee or a Government department, to understand why that might be? You said that the rise could not have been predicted, but if there are to be changes in trends in sentencing and in how long we hold prisoners for, maybe it is an important thing to understand.

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Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

You might not be able to answer this, but does that indicate that more serious crimes are being committed, or is it not possible to tell? Or is it that the courts are taking a harder view on sentencing—which they are entitled to do, as the judiciary is independent?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

I have some other questions for you, if that is okay.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

It is just that we are short of time.

I want to ask you about the different models. There has been criticism of the Irish model versus the Swedish model, which seems to be more effective. Could you tell the committee why that would be? Is there any particular country whose legislation has been more effective than the legislation elsewhere?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

Thank you very much.

Lastly, I want to ask about the figures for human trafficking—this is probably for Bronagh Andrew. I think that some of those figures have been disputed. What can you tell the committee about the prevalence of human trafficking, and about the profile of trafficking and what it looks like in Scotland, in particular?