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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

You talked quite a bit about the Irish model, which does not seem to have been effective compared with other models. Have you covered everything that you wanted to say about that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

I completely understand what you are saying. However, I clarify that my question was about the wider harm that male attitudes cause society, and I think that we are all probably agreed on that point.

I want to ask what is, for me, quite an important question for Niki Adams or Lynsey Walton about the men who organise sex workers. Do we call them pimps? I not know whether that is the right language. I sat on the Roots Out of Prostitution board many years ago, when I represented the Glasgow Kelvin constituency, which was quite different 20 years ago. Things were not so organised then, but I know that it has changed a lot. Anything that you can tell us about who organises things and who these men are—is it men?—would be really helpful.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting) [Draft]

Reducing Drug Deaths and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

My next question is about the way that you engage with the community. There is still a long way to go, given that we are only seven months in, as you said. How regular is the contact with the community to keep it engaged?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting) [Draft]

Reducing Drug Deaths and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

It is not at all what I am saying.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting) [Draft]

Reducing Drug Deaths and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

I agree that the Thistle is a very impressive set-up and that it is very professional. One of the things that I noted relates to referral services, which are important. I want to ask you about longer-term approaches. Annie Wells asked whether there have been any referrals to rehabilitation services yet. It is early days, so the focus is on getting the service up and running, but do you hope that, at some point fairly soon, we will begin to see such referrals? Obviously, this is about saving lives, but we need to try to get people off the thing that is putting them at risk in the first place. Are you hopeful that we will see more referrals for rehabilitation?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting) [Draft]

Reducing Drug Deaths and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

Tricia, is that the view of the local community?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting) [Draft]

Reducing Drug Deaths and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

My colleague raised the specific issue of drug dealing. Does that data include drug dealing?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting) [Draft]

Reducing Drug Deaths and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

Good morning. I want to continue on that theme. I know Calton well. I have been to the facility and I am aware that, as Tricia Fort said, there has been a lot of apprehension in the local community. That is understandable.

I have noted what you have already said, but the media reporting seems to suggest that there has been an increase in drug-related crime. Is that related at all to what you are telling the committee? Is there any evidence that there has been a reduction or an increase in drug-related crime? Which is it?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting) [Draft]

Reducing Drug Deaths and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting) [Draft]

Reducing Drug Deaths and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Pauline McNeill

I did not mean what was suggested. As you may know, early on, I hosted a meeting in 2018 with and supported the Danish lawyer who had been successful with the idea and who brought it to Scotland, so I am fully committed to it.

I am interested in the longer-term policy. It may be appropriate for Tara Shivaji to answer my next question, as she talked about housing. We know that women tend not to access services, but I want to ask about the vulnerabilities in men who are drug users. If we look ahead to the future of the policy agenda, has any thought been given to what we need to do in the longer term to address those vulnerabilities, particularly given that the number of male users is higher? I would be keen to hear anything that you have to say about that.