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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 May 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Jackie Baillie

There is currently no effective strategy, which is why I think that the bill needs to be amended. There is a lack of transparency among some of the social care bodies, and trying to get information from them is like trying to get blood out of a stone. We absolutely need to improve data and reporting—if we do not, how will we measure progress?

However, the minister will be pleased to hear that I will be consistently reasonable. I will seek to withdraw amendment 115 and will not move amendments 126 and 127, on the understanding that she will work with me prior to stage 3 to bring something back.

Amendment 115, by agreement, withdrawn.

Section 36—Care records

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackie Baillie

It was 2017.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackie Baillie

Absolutely—they are the ones who know. However, eight years have passed and there has been no update or attempt to complete that data set.

How many returns have you received from those fisheries? What enforcement action, if any, have you taken against those that do not return catch data?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackie Baillie

Not all the fisheries provide catch returns.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackie Baillie

I intend to press it, convener.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackie Baillie

Thank you, convener. I have a number of questions about the Endrick Water. Cabinet secretary, do you know yet how many riparian owners there are on the Endrick?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackie Baillie

But there are some active fisheries. I understand what you said to my colleague earlier about a series of letters. Is any enforcement action taken if active fisheries do not provide returns?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackie Baillie

The Government has been trying to do that for years, convener.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackie Baillie

It has been a great debate. I say as a matter of record that I am always happy to engage with the cabinet secretary at any point, but it is fair to say that my constituents have been engaging since 2016 and they feel that nothing has really changed, that it is groundhog day and that they keep coming back to talk about the same thing.

For the record, it is not the methodology that matters—I entirely accept what the cabinet secretary has said about its being benchmarked against others. The reality is that it is the input data that matters. That is the issue before us, and we have been trying for more than eight years to get some sense in terms of the data that is processed using the methodology.

I also want to say a little bit about the legislative process, because I am always very much of the view that where there is a will there is always a way. This Parliament has introduced regulations from scratch in days—I point you to the regulations on cremations and burials, which affected my constituents directly. We have gone through stages 1, 2 and 3 of primary legislation in a day, dealing with bills whose actual evolution has taken less than a week. Taking the convener’s lead, I would suggest that you could amend the subordinate legislation; indeed, you could resubmit it tomorrow, having removed the contentious provisions and leaving in the provisions related to the Annan and other rivers. It is that easy. Therefore, I invite the committee to consider carefully what option it wishes to encourage the Government to follow.

Neither I nor others with an interest in Loch Lomond can speak to what is going on in other rivers, but, as Rhoda Grant has highlighted, 46 per cent of those consulted raised issues about the data. We cannot keep going on like this, year after year, having the same conversations, just because the data has not improved. We are not doing salmon conservation—or regeneration, for that matter—any good if we continue to lack the evidence to act.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Jackie Baillie

Who knew that salmon protection and conservation could be so interesting?