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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I turn to Shauna Clarke. I want to ask about Edinburgh’s experience of working with different local authorities or agencies. I represent a constituency that has the biggest number of people of any constituency in the whole of Scotland, and they commute. Clearly, if you are trying to tackle transport and traffic in Edinburgh, that involves looking at the situation not just in Edinburgh but in surrounding areas.

How closely are you aligned with the regional transport partnerships when it comes to the transportation network and reducing traffic into Edinburgh? We are struggling to get basic things such as bus hubs that can take people on the M8 from Whitburn and the M9 from Winchburgh. Those are fairly obvious things. Is there enough co-ordination between the different agencies and those of you who are working on air pollution?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I will come to Stuart Hay first and then go to Gavin Thomson. Are sufficient powers available to local authorities and the Scottish Environment Protection Agency to ensure compliance with the existing rules and regulations? Has there been adequate enforcement action to meet legal air quality limit values, or do you agree that having a focus on continuous improvement might be better than focusing completely on whether we enforce compliance with existing rules?

I ask other witnesses to indicate whether they want to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Okay. I am conscious that other members have questions, so I will pass back to you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I will move to Stuart Hay. Stuart, where is Scotland’s current performance in meeting international air quality limit values? What pollutants do you consider to be the most challenging?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I want to ask very briefly about air monitoring in schools. In its submission to the committee’s inquiry, the Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh said that it thinks there should be air monitors at schools throughout Scotland. If I am correct, Shauna Clarke said that the City of Edinburgh Council has monitored air pollution and knows the information for its city. Dom and Kenny, what are your views on that? Do you think that it is a proper use of resources? Would it be helpful, or do you already have enough information about schools so as not to require such a major initiative?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I will come to Paul White. The lockdowns had a major effect on transport, and bus passenger levels have not yet gone up to pre-Covid levels. How has that affected trends in air pollution over the past few years? Obviously, there has been a shift to electric vehicles as well. What is that doing to improve air quality?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Shauna, is there anything that you want to say in addition to what you said previously?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

You said that you want to know where there are deficiencies. The Scottish Grocers’ Federation has written to the committee in the past week on many outstanding issues, which you must know about because it will have told you. Why does it still have those concerns? Can they be resolved by 16 August?

Retail handling fees have gone from being cost neutral to actual costs incurred. Reimbursement is no longer being made every seven days; it has been moved to being made monthly, which might affect cash flow. Collections might not be made every day, and there are obviously concerns about that. The planning regulations for reverse vending machines are benefiting supermarkets, but there are difficulties with more localised collection. There are also concerns about the terms and conditions when signing up being an open chequebook and people being expected to sign up to the scheme when all those other concerns are still outstanding.

Why is the Scottish Grocers’ Federation still writing to the committee to express its concerns that those issues are outstanding? How do you intend to resolve them in time?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Yes, it does. On a market condition basis, that state involvement in the operation is interesting.