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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

You indicated that you were aware of the evidence that the committee has had previously. One of the messages that we were getting is that, because we know that poor air quality probably has an impact at a much lower level than the current standards, it is more important to have an agenda of continuous improvement than to focus on standards affecting some hotspots in some areas. Is that something that you have a view on now?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I have a question just to understand your role as well. There are some standards for which it is easier to see where the Scottish Government is complying and so on. How would ESS monitor a continuous improvement agenda to show progress?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Apologies for straying on to a colleague’s area of questioning, but I was more interested in the five-year review and how that sits with a continuous improvement agenda, which everybody seems to recognise we need to have. Does that relate to your point about there being certain things that we would need to assess more regularly than every five years? That is more of a policy agenda? We know that we need standards. However, we do not want compliance with standards to get in the way of what seems to be a wider continuous improvement agenda that can be monitored and assessed more regularly. Is that your view?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Do you have a view on the Scottish Government’s support for local authorities that have been failing to meet their objectives under local air quality management systems? Is there any evidence of improvement in the support that is being provided?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

On timescales for improvement, your view is that a five-year review cycle is not consistent with trying to get compliance as soon as possible. Are you satisfied with the Government’s response on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

To put the issue in context, I note that, if we use that timescale, a child who starts primary 1 aged five will almost have left primary school by the time of the review. I am not saying anything about a particular school but, conceptually, in relation to improvements, five years is quite a long time in the life of a child.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Which is why we are having this inquiry session.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Good morning. In your initial feedback to the Scottish Government, you highlighted the importance of ensuring the accessibility of the just transition plans in order to allow non-specialists to engage with them. Can you expand on that feedback and say what needs to be done to improve the accessibility of current drafts? Will you also reflect on the purpose of and the audience for the just transition plans, because that will influence how they are written and the language that they are written in? Is the process of producing the just transition plans as important as the final publication?

I ask Jim Skea to give his overall view on that and then, if Elliot Ross or Lang Banks want to come in, they should let us know.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Elliott, do you want to come in?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

So you want it to be accessible but at the same time your initial feedback was that you want more detail and credibility, particularly for the energy sector just transition plan. You have recently responded on—we have heard about this today—the need for more information on fuel poverty, ownership of community assets, investment and so on.

10:30  

The committee is making recommendations and is having an open dialogue with you about your scrutiny and advice role. The challenge is that there is a tendency for the Government put everything but the kitchen sink into a document and to try to capture what we already know, whereas we really want the just transition plan to capture what has to be done differently and in what areas. Would you like to comment on that?