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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

So, it becomes an argument whether it is in the interests of consumers to have renewable energy—full stop.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I am sure that you are, but the Treasury is making the decisions. What does it need to speed up its decision making?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

We are suggesting that seeking consent with regard to devolved areas instead of just consulting would make a big difference.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I want to press you on your decision making. Once you have the recommendations, what do you see as being a successful timescale for making decisions that will make a difference? The risks are very high.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

On the risks of not being prompt in accelerating all the decision making, you talked about a number of issues. The committee has acknowledged that we will pursue planning consents with our minister. However, on SMEs and supply chains, if the markets are really opening up—for good reason—in the US and the EU, in particular, we must make sure that we have people with the right skills. It is not just about infrastructure. Do you acknowledge that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Welcome to the committee, minister. Hydro is obviously not a nascent issue.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Clearly, the green hydrogen potential for Scotland is enormous, but we will need a bridge to get there, and the Acorn project is key in that. Last spring, the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee produced a cross-party report highlighting the importance of that. We must bear it in mind that we will not necessarily be able to see that shift to sustainable aviation fuel—or, indeed, the big green hydrogen market that we anticipate that Scotland could realise—for some time. However, it will have an impact on the just transition, particularly for Grangemouth.

I assume that the just transition plan that you produce will not be set in stone, because the plan will be affected every time that there is a milestone or an intervention of what, we hope, will be positive decisions. When you publish it next year, will you make it clear how you will maintain it on an iterative basis, so that it is not only current but forward looking and visionary?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

This inquiry is part of the preparation, and we want to input into your plan. We do not expect you to be definitive about what will or will not be in it, but we are discussing what we have heard. Colin Smyth talked about the need for a route map and about how there perhaps should be tangible points along the way to 2045 and the realisation of the final vision.

One of the transport issues that we have heard about is congestion around the site because of the many vehicles that transport the high levels of fuel that are, as you have said, key to the central belt of Scotland. However, there seems to be a lack of ownership, with no one responsible for resolving that issue, and it would be an easy win.

Another win would be to look at the north-south connections from the M8 to Grangemouth. If we are talking about STPR2, I note that the Avon gorge road was the only non-trunk road to be mentioned, and it would stop big lorries, tankers and so on having to do 40-mile round trips. It is probably the only green road in Scotland.

If we are thinking about meaningful wins along the way, whether they relate to transport, housing, flooding measures or whatever, those are the things that we have heard about. I am not saying that they have to be the priorities—although I would argue that they should be, given my constituency interest in the Avon gorge road, in particular—but when you produce your plans, will you look at things that make wider sense and that result in tangible wins not just for the industrial site but for the community around it? Do you expect to consider such issues over the next few months?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Fiona Hyslop

The independent just transition commission has suggested that effective communication requires the plans to be co-designed, which has to be a two-way process. It is important to demonstrate that stakeholder feedback can lead to policy changes, so will the Scottish Government seek to do that through the co-design process for the just transition plans? For Grangemouth, who would you define as the stakeholders?