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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

David Hammond, from an officer’s point of view, are skills and capacity in financial investment being built up within local authorities?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

That leads on to my next question, which is about local franchises—which I assume could include community transport—and the issue of how to support them, and the bus partnership fund. What is your understanding of the interrelationship between those in making the step change that we need? Five hundred million pounds is a lot of money to go into supporting local authority bus services—either local franchises or community-owned buses—but how do we lever it in? It seems that, at the moment, most councils are just doing their scoping exercises on that.

What do you think will happen, or what do you want to happen, to ensure that local franchises can not only exist, but are funded? Can the bus partnership fund do that?

10:30  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you very much for joining us today.

Clearly respecting the independence of local authorities, the committee’s role was to bring together suggestions that would be helpful for both the Scottish Government and councils. One of the clear points that came out is that it is not going to be all about public sector funding and that we are also going to have to leverage in private sector funding. However, the scale of that is enormous.

For smaller local authorities such as Dumfries and Galloway Council, even your offer for the big infrastructure issues and housing and transport might not collectively be big enough to be attractive for financial investment. The Scottish National Investment Bank will not be able to work directly with you until it has approvals from a number of the market authorities.

What steps have taken place recently to mobilise that? How plugged in are you with the green finance task force in order to make sure that you will be well placed to access the private sector funding that will need to be invested—which we know will be billions—but through a sensible and place-based approach?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Our inquiry was about local government and its partners. As you identified—which is very much also how we see it—a number of partners have to be in this space to make sure that you can lead in your co-ordinator facility, or whatever role you may take in different areas.

In relation to the report itself, you have already indicated that the route map is essential. That was one of our key recommendations, which you probably welcomed. Are any of the other recommendations particularly strong and helpful to your agenda? Also, if you could be quite frank with us, are any of the recommendations that we put forward more challenging, such that you might want to push back on them or, indeed, question them?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

On the wider parameters of our report and of COSLA’s response, what was the response from your 31 colleagues about the suggestion that councils were not just responsible for their own properties or their own fleet but were well placed to co-ordinate and facilitate a place-based response to climate change, through co-ordinating sectors that were not part of their direct responsibility?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Yes. I will move us on to natural capital. We took evidence on that and I recall Highland Council being quite strong in relation to some of its concerns in that area. What work is being done by local authorities to attract private investment into tackling natural capital and its contribution to our net zero targets? Are there any specific examples where local authorities are working with the Scottish Government or other agencies to realise that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

In our inquiry into a just transition, we have heard that there is a potential gap in jobs and skills, particularly for the supply chain. The contracts might not be realised for some time and we might not be able to scale up in time so, when demand emerges, it might have to be met internationally. There is a gap in the funding for the skills and jobs for the supply chain. How can that be filled?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

Skills passports will not necessarily address the technology issues for companies. That needs to be considered.

We have heard about the need for billions of pounds of investment to realise our net zero goals. How fundamental is the carbon capture, utilisation and storage Acorn cluster for the just transition not only for the north-east but for Grangemouth? There is £1 million from Ineos sitting on the table ready to move for the industrial cluster with the biggest emissions in Scotland. What is your view on that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

We are interested in knowing what you are doing to help to support that shorter supply chain, not just in Scotland but in the wider economy.

09:15  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Fiona Hyslop

I want to ask about two issues, one of which is to do with your opening remarks, minister. In which areas is the Scottish economy vulnerable, and what measures are you taking to support it?