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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I ask Martyn Raine to comment briefly on what he thinks will be required.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thanks very much, Gordon. I call Brian Whittle.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

P&O Ferries

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Do you have any shame for yourself or your company?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

P&O Ferries

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

A company director who breaks the law—that is a serious responsibility for any individual.

I will move on to the area of finance. When its annual accounts were signed off on 10 December 2021, the board of P&O Ferries Holdings considered the business to be “a going concern”. Can you explain what changed in the past three months, that led from the business being “a going concern” to the summary sacking of 800 workers?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you. I think that Gordon Nelson wanted to come back on an earlier question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

P&O Ferries

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Do you understand that it is not for an employer to decide what a union will think or how it will respond? It is for the union to decide that. Why did you not respect that fundamental, basic principle of employer and trade union relations?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

P&O Ferries

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you. We will move on to questions. Will you explain what is currently happening with the MV European Causeway, and what regulations you are not complying with?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you.

Graham Simpson will join us later. For clarity, Graham will be attending as a non-committee member, which means that he is entitled to attend the public part of the meeting and, at my discretion, to participate in questioning witnesses.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on whether to take items 4 to 7 in private. Items 4 and 5 are consideration of the evidence heard at our two evidence sessions, item 6 is consideration of draft letters on carbon capture, utilisation and storage, and item 7 is consideration of the committee’s work programme. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Agenda item 2 is an evidence session as part of our inquiry into the role of local government and its cross-sectoral partners in financing and delivering a net zero Scotland. I refer members to the papers from the clerk and the Scottish Parliament information centre for the item.

We launched the inquiry in December to look into progress at a local level in reaching net zero targets. The inquiry is also considering what role the Scottish Government and its agencies can play in supporting and challenging local government to work well with its partners, and how local government can play its part in ensuring a just transition to net zero.

We are now in phase 2 of our inquiry, looking in depth at the key themes that emerged from our initial evidence sessions and our call for written views, and we will continue with a theme that we began last week: vocational skills and workforce readiness for net zero targets.

I am pleased to welcome our panellists, who join us remotely. Ian Hill is industry insight manager and Ian Hughes is engagement director for Scotland at the Construction Industry Training Board; Gordon Nelson is Scotland director at the Federation of Master Builders; Martyn Raine is technical and skills manager at the Scottish and Northern Ireland Plumbing Employers’ Federation; and Grant Tierney is chair of Local Authority Building Standards Scotland. Thank you for accepting our invitation; we are delighted to have you here.

We have allocated around 75 minutes for the panel. We welcome comprehensive answers, but with five panellists you will appreciate that we will also welcome concise answers, where possible. I remind members to direct their question to a specific person or to set out a running order for answering the question if it is relevant to more than one witness.

My first question relates to industry in general. Are there areas of the workforce where witnesses expect current skills gaps to increase or new skills gaps to emerge in relation to the transition to net zero? I will go to Ian Hill first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you very much for that.

Jane, can you comment on the draft NPF4 and your views on the role of planners in particular? Does the young generation of planners see itself as leading on net zero within local authorities?