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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Good morning, panel, and thank you for joining us. Please feel free to expand on your previous remarks. I am interested in the historical context that we have just heard about from Dr Lowes and that rapid acceleration of electrification, particularly in Scandinavia, in the 1960s and 1970s. Some of us are old enough to remember the 1973 oil crisis, and the very practical implications that it had.

My question is first to Dr Lowes. What can we learn from the speed of the response in the 1960s and 1970s? Indeed, are there any lessons that we should learn from that? What should we expect now?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I will bring in Dr Hannon, who might want to reflect on any other international comparators, either historical or contemporary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you. Clearly, a lot of this is reserved to the UK Government, but it is very helpful to have a rounded analysis. I will hand back to the convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I was going to suggest to the convener that we might move on, so that other members could come in. However, if other panel members have anything to say on energy market reform, I ask them please to indicate through the chat function or to bring it in when somebody else asks a question.

I think that Tim Lord might want to say something. I will pass back after him.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Energy Price Rises

Meeting date: 19 April 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you. Does Tim Lord have any reflections on international and historical lessons that we might learn?

As well as this crisis, we are facing the climate crisis. Reference has been made to the trillions of pounds in funds that need to be invested. We have heard from Dr Hannon that a fabric first approach will be essential to help in the immediate term. Is there no way that we could ask the private sector to mobilise in order to help with that investment in the short term? Such investment might not be as attractive as offshore wind investment, for example, but it would make a real difference to people’s lives this winter if such mobilisation could take place.

That question provides quite a large canvas, but any reflections would be helpful.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 30 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Good morning. Thank you for sharing your insight. I am interested in how we might view our approach to the inquiry and the issue of whether we use a deficit model that sees towns as a problem to be solved or an alternative model that sees towns as a solution for modern living. Your perspective that every town is unique and has its own story is relevant in that regard.

What do you see as the role of culture, events, tourism and leisure in relation to the identity aspect that you have been talking about and people’s experience of town centres?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 30 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

My second question relates to what we now see on our high streets. I represent West Lothian, which is one of the youngest constituencies in Scotland. We have a lot of hairdressers, beauty salons and so on. The people of West Lothian want to look good, but I also get complaints from some constituents, who say, “Is that all we have?” However, those services provide an experience—they are part of a leisure experience, and they bring people on to the high streets, which means footfall, as they can then buy other things. How should we consider that dimension? That is a very real situation in many towns in Scotland.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

P&O Ferries

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

You have acknowledged breaking the requirements of the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992 for business reasons. Are there any other laws that you would consider breaking if a similar situation arose? Can you understand why passengers would be very worried about travelling with a ferry company that is happy to break the law?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Natalie Don, who joins us remotely, will ask the next question. I remind members that their questions do not have to be allocated to all witnesses. However, it has been very helpful to hear from all the witnesses at the beginning.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

P&O Ferries

Meeting date: 29 March 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I thank Mr Hebblethwaite for attending the session. In my 20-plus years as a member of the Scottish Parliament, I am not sure that I have come across an issue with an employer that has united members right across the chamber in such hostility. The people we represent—our constituents—even those who are not in the south of Scotland or in Cairnryan, are disgusted and dismayed that a company with your reputation, and a company that has shareholders with reputations, has treated people with such disrespect and such a lack of dignity at work.

However, I thank Mr Hebblethwaite for taking the time to attend the session. We will discuss the evidence that we have received later in the meeting.

I wish everyone a restful Easter break—unfortunately, that will not be the case for the many P&O workers who have suffered at the hands of this chief executive.

11:49 Meeting continued in private until 12:52.