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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Is there a tension between local government delivering net zero targets for its own estate and responsibilities and taking leadership with regard to a place-based approach? That touches on the issue about industrial emissions, which are not on the public sector side. Would a place-based solution require local authorities to have some sort of remit or responsibility in that area?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Good afternoon. I would like to talk about collaboration and co-ordination. Councillor Macgregor, what do we need to do first to improve collaboration and co-ordination between local government and central Government? In her written evidence, Louise Marix Evans said that there needs to be some kind of framework agreement or mechanism between different levels of government across the UK. Do you agree that that is needed or do you think that there is already sufficient co-ordination and collaboration?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

In its written evidence, COSLA calls for a mechanism to be developed

“by which we can better manage the multiple decarbonisation challenges that we face, and their impact on the economy and society.”

We all know that that needs to happen; we want to know what you think that would look like in practice.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Should councils be leaders in adopting a place-based approach to tackle net zero or should they be interested only in public services and public sector responsibilities?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Is COSLA involved in Minister Harvie’s green finance task force on housing?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

David Hammond, will you address the same question and whether you think that council officials have the skills required to embark on those joint ventures or to use different finance mechanisms? What is needed to share that skills base across local authorities?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the 24th meeting in 2022 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

I welcome to the meeting Edward Mountain, who is joining us for the first time as a committee member. He replaces Dean Lockhart. On behalf of all members of the committee, I once again thank Dean for his contribution to the committee’s work this session. I have, as discussed at our previous meeting, written to Dean on the committee’s behalf.

As Edward Mountain is joining us for the first time, agenda item 1 is a declaration of interests. I invite Mr Mountain to declare any relevant interests.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you very much, Edward.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I appreciate that you have been in post for only two months, but our committee is about to produce a report and we are nearing the end of this question session, so it would be helpful to know what that mechanism would look like.

Silke Isbrand, do you want to come in, on the invitation of Councillor Macgregor?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

But there is no obvious transparency about that overall impact to make it clear, whether it should be the board’s oversight or indeed the minister’s oversight.

Could I give you an example? We have talked a lot about volume and you have talked effectively, I think, about how you are managing volume. However, clearly, if Registers of Scotland or lawyers make a mistake, it could have consequences. I think that the rejections could be seen as a good thing—as gatekeeping potential problems with what has been presented. However, clearly, the risk of that is greater—you have said this yourself—from a 2017 case than it is from a more recent case, because trying to manage that risk, or to rectify a problem, whether it lies with your organisation or with the supply chain of lawyers providing the applications, is more problematic if you are carrying more older cases. The potential severity of that impact needs to be measured somewhere.

I am not sure that that is transparent either in what you have been saying to us today or in your corporate plan, or indeed in what I have seen in the risk register; it is just service inputs as opposed to risk outputs to the economy. We are the economy committee, so clearly we are interested in that. It may not always be you, and it might be individual lawyers. Between you and your major customer base—lawyers; obviously, you work very closely with the Law Society—how do you manage the risk of things going wrong, as can and does happen? We know that it will not be large cases; it will be small cases, but those cases could have a major impact.

Do you have a duty of care at all and who holds responsibility for any impact on individuals—you will know about mental health issues that we will come to you about—as home owners or indeed businesses? Where does the risk of that impact lie? Where does the accountability lie? Is that with individual lawyers, the Law Society, your board or you as an organisation? There is definitely a risk there, but who is managing that risk and how do we make it more transparent that it is being managed properly?

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