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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

On the importance of procurement post EU exit, it has been recognised by everybody that there had to be legislation put in place. In January 2022, the UK and devolved Governments published the common framework on procurement, which this committee recognised was a practical and commonsense way forward. However, the Scottish Government notes in its LCM that it has not been able to fully address its concerns with the Procurement Bill. How has the common framework been operating in practice? Everybody was looking to that as being the practical means by which there could be that sensible, commonsense co-operation.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Do you think that this is more accidental mission creep as opposed to deliberate power grab? I am trying to be generous here. There are degrees of disagreement with LCMs. The Infrastructure Bank Bill looks more straightforward, but this one is so important because it is about procurement and we need to get it right. Is there something that you can try to resolve at ministerial level to get us back on track with the common framework agreement?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

There is an important message there. There is value in having something that provides a sustainable sector for individuals in the workforce—which has a knock-on effect on retention, which has a cost value itself—and that provides investment in growth instead of addressing just the short-term, immediate issues around energy costs. If there were Barnett consequentials—it is not obvious that there will be—in the business sector area, would business rates be your priority?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I turn to Lloyd Austin. We know that, whether we are talking about UK Government or Scottish Government bills, there will be a lack of detail until regulations are granted. However, concerns have been expressed by English NGOs about what might happen. We have a new Government at the UK level, one of the first announcements of which was that, as of Monday, businesses with fewer than 500 employees will be exempt from reporting requirements and other regulations. It also said:

“The changed threshold will apply ... to all new regulations under development as well as those under current and future review, including retained EU laws.”

The UK Government is saying that there will be non-regression as far as environmental law is concerned. If the UK Government were to clarify that non-regression will apply in this context, that would give an early indication that non-regression will stand. Do you share that view?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Early clarification by the UK Government of what it announced on Monday would at least give us some certainty about what might or might not happen.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

So, that comes back to consent rather than consultation.

David Melhuish, you talked about the importance of enabling infrastructure investments and developments. I am also interested in whether, if the environmental outcome report is in the jurisdiction of the secretary of state, with a duty only to consult with the devolved Administration, that will enable or hinder developments. We actually want to make things happen, but there is a question of the speed of decision making, and the issue is whether those decisions are better made more locally. However, land-based decisions would quite clearly be more devolved, unless they involved a big energy project such as a nuclear facility, for example.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

David, what are your views on the interaction between the bill, the LCM on which we are looking at, and the draft NPF4?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I am trying to understand the matter from a practical point of view. What will it mean for projects, in particular? I turn to Robbie Calvert for an answer next. Although there are some concerns about the provisions on environmental outcomes reports, you can see a sense in them from a policy point of view. However, who would make the decision on large onshore—or even, potentially, offshore—developments that environmental assessment has shown need some kind of mitigation when that mitigation might not be able to happen on a granular, small scale but will happen elsewhere? Under the bill, would a Scottish minister or the secretary of state decide where the mitigation for the environmental outcome would take place? That is a practical situation that could happen.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

But you would be reliant on the applicant as opposed to the approvals database.

On the volume of work, what discussions has the Scottish Government had with the UK Government about how it ensures that the HSE is sufficiently resourced to carry out its functions in this area effectively and to reduce delays in processing authorisations under the GB biocidal product regulatory regime?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Good morning. I am interested in policy coherence. Environmental and planning legislation is devolved. I will come to Robbie Calvert first. How might part 5 of the bill impact on the fourth national planning framework?