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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

We are coming to the end of our inquiry, so it would be helpful if you could do that quite quickly.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 27 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

What can and what is the Scottish Government doing to de-risk investments in net zero infrastructure? What barriers are preventing more successful partnerships between councils and private investors? How do you make sure that there are investable opportunities? The criticism that we have is that the propositions are not big enough, so who helps to resolve that situation?

Heat and transport are the big issues that we have to address, but not all heat is in council housing. There is also social housing and private sector housing. How will that be financed and how do we make sure that we have propositions of new finance models to make net zero happen? Is there any role whatsoever for local government in that? Is that what we can expect? Or, in a place-based approach, who will do it? There are big questions around that wider investability and how we leverage in the money. What role do local authorities have and what are you doing to support them? Do they have any responsibility whatsoever for private sector housing in a place-based approach to tackle net zero?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Is that something that you see being addressed by a framework between national and local government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Is that the way to ensure that finance expertise could be shared? Clearly, small local authorities might not have it yet.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Councillor Macgregor, do you have any views on that in relation to housing and—if we are taking a place-based approach—private housing and transport, which could involve buses as well as electric vehicle charging and so on? If we are going to do this at scale, have you already embarked on a discussion with the Scottish Government on that? How do we get those big mechanisms available for finance at scale? Is that a definite must for the future?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

We are interested in how we leverage in more private finance or support from private business to address that place-based solution for net zero. Silke Isbrand, can you address that issue? We have heard that some councils, such as Glasgow City Council, are already doing a great deal of that. What are the barriers and opportunities for all councils to be able to leverage in private investment? How do we manage that in such a way that councils are not carrying all the risks? That is a concern that we have heard about.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

I want to ask about the barriers and opportunities for councils in leveraging private finance. We have heard from councils about the pressures on public finances, and we understand those concerns, but given the scale of the work that we are talking about, they do not expect the Scottish Government to provide all the funding. How, then, do we use private and green finance for this?

Perhaps I can ask Louise Marix Evans to come in not just on that question, but on whether something more can be done about skills, abilities and the framework of collaboration. Do you have any recommendations in that respect?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Convener

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Agenda item 2 is appointment of the committee’s new convener. On 15 June 2021, the Parliament agreed motion S6M-00393, which resolved that members of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party were eligible to be chosen as convener of this committee. I understand that the Conservative nominee for convener is Edward Mountain.

Edward Mountain was chosen as convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Convener

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Congratulations, Edward. I pass over to you to convene the remainder of the meeting.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Fiona Hyslop

David Hammond, you talked about there being a lot of collaboration already between officials. Do you think that anything else is needed to provide that co-production mechanism? We all agree that everyone needs to be involved—local government, national Government, the private sector and so on—but should that be done on a place basis? Is there a role for city deals? How do we put the approach into practice?