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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you all.

Meeting closed at 10:06.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Fiona Hyslop

We move to questions. I have a few questions, then I will bring in Mark Ruskell and Liam Kerr.

Scottish Water gave evidence to the committee on its annual report. There might be costs involved in the implementation of the SSI. Will you explain those costs and how Scottish Water will manage them within its existing or proposed budget?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Fiona Hyslop

What are other countries in the UK and the EU doing in relation to the recast directive?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Are there implications for this SSI in relation to the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Do any other members have questions?

We move to agenda item 2, which is formal consideration of motion S6M-06537. I invite the minister to speak to and move the motion in the name of the Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero, Energy and Transport.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Public Water Supplies (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2022 [draft] be approved.—[Màiri McAllan]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Fiona Hyslop

?No members wish to contribute to the debate, and the minister has nothing further to add.

Motion agreed to.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition Commission

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

The plans and projects that exist are all very good and worthy in and of themselves, but some of them are probably focused more on delivery of net zero than necessarily on a just transition. There will be an obvious fault line between trying to generate the transition and focusing on the “just” aspect of it in relation to fairness and the principles that you have established.

If there is to be funding for a just transition, should it be mainstreamed in the areas that have already been mentioned—housing, energy and transport, for example—with private companies involved, or would there be merit in having stand-alone just transition plans that were supported by funds? If criteria had to be met for those funds, would the commission advise on that? If you are advising on the sector just transition plans, are you also advising on the criteria for funding, or is that still work in progress?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition Commission

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

Thank you very much.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition Commission

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

The committee would be interested in that. We have to determine what we, as a committee, want to do, and you might want to advise us on what it would be most useful for us to do. There is no point in our repeating work that you are doing, but we need to work in synergy somehow.

If we are being quite innovative, in a global sense, in our approach to the just transition, the challenge is that we have to make difficult choices. Will we need to make big, bold decisions relating to the just transition in Scotland, or will piecemeal, segmented activity with seedcorn funding provide a way forward? That is a genuine dilemma. Has the commission discussed that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition Commission

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Fiona Hyslop

The committee could focus on skills. Some of the skills that need to be developed might not be used to deliver projects until five years’ time, for example, but if we do not start investing in the supply chain and developing those skills now, we will not necessarily be able to deliver and scale up, particularly in relation to renewables, when work needs to be done at pace. The issue is how we support supply chain companies that use engineering skills, for example, to make those investments and decisions now, given that they might not necessarily reap the rewards for five years. A genuine transition challenge relates to how we support companies to do that, and that might require state subsidy. We need to think about the issue in those terms. Will the commission look at that, and should the committee potentially look at it?