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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

Good morning. I want to go back to Evelyn Tweed’s point about the duty on public bodies. Something that was just expressed and which has been picked up on a lot in evidence is that the duty has just not worked—it has not been taken forward in the way that we wanted.

I am conscious—I think that this is hot off the press—that the Environment (Principles, Governance and Biodiversity Targets) (Wales) Bill has recently been introduced. That bill has some interesting ideas about how—I have written it down—the Welsh Government will create a statement that will inform public bodies how they have to comply with the duty. The bill will give the Welsh Government the power to designate a public body to meet a particular target, impact, or whatever it might be. Did you have any cross-Government discussions with the Welsh Government on what it is doing? Are those things that you might consider doing here, in Scotland?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

Is the intention to feed that into the code of practice?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

I am thinking about the risk.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

You talked earlier about good will—and I will come back to that, because I think that you do have good will—but there is a risk that things such as nature restoration or vague terms such as “have regard to” risk undermining it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

If stakeholders do not feel that that is the case, why would you not consider slightly strengthening that wording in the bill?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

It is important to place on record that you foresee that dialogue and that relationship happening. You have already said as much, but I just want to the point to be clarified.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

I have a quick question about the business and regulatory impact assessment, which, as far as I am aware, has not yet been published. When will that be coming?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

Actually, convener, can I come in later with question 17? I think that my supplementary question relates to that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

Okay.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tim Eagle

I get that you think that the protections are robust, but all the evidence that we have heard suggests that many others do not think that they are. What are your thoughts on changing that?

To go back to the question that I inadvertently asked earlier, you consulted last year on adapting and improving the habitat regulations. That consultation had two elements: one was around creating more flexibility to designate a site based on an ecosystem or habitat approach, and the other was about encouraging more proactive management. What did you learn from the consultation? You have not brought anything into the bill from that consultation, so what came out of it that led you to instead move to take this broad power?