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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

Excellent.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

Okay. I just wanted to make sure.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

There have been some excellent questions about small farmers. We had a similar discussion about the Scottish suckler beef support scheme, when I asked you what that meant for small farmers. I cannot remember your exact words, but you said something like, “I hear you.” I emphasise again that we have been asked to put SSIs in place before we have a real understanding of what they will mean for smaller farmers and crofters.

The point about price is a wider one. The worry with any requirement, particularly if you cannot always do it yourself, is that the cost then gets bigger and bigger. There is a big difference between a 500-acre farm and a guy—or a woman, or anybody else—who has 20 acres and five sheep. There is no point in me asking the same questions, but I want to push that.

I want to ask about the story of how we have come to be here. Where did the idea of the whole farm plan start for you? I buy some of what you are saying; a QMS or Scottish Quality Crops farm assurance member will have been doing some of this for years now—although again, a lot of smaller farmers are not in farm assurance schemes. So, as you are talking about co-design, what is the story, from your perspective, of how we have got to the point where you feel that this is the right decision for us?

11:15  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

On the technical side, my understanding is that there will be no penalty in 2025 if plans are not in place and that there will just be a warning letter. Just to make sure, is that absolutely right?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I have to be honest that I am still not very clear, but maybe I am not picking this up right. Your route map goes up to 2027, which is two years away. You are right that the hope is that there will be no surprises in that, but I am still not clear.

Will you tell me again what will be in the rural support plan? It will be laid in winter 2025 and will start in 2027. It sets the direction, but we already know the direction. It will be about tiers 1 to 4; tier 1 is about direct payments, with a greening something in tier 2 that we are not clear about yet, and tiers 3 and 4 will come later, plus the less favoured area support scheme and the Scottish beef calf scheme. All of that will be in the plan. You said that it will be a collection of all the evidence and discussions that have happened. Tell me more about that.

09:15  

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I assumed that we would have known pretty much all of that by now. For absolute clarity, you are saying that the purpose of the rural support plan is about the future. The SSIs that we will consider in the autumn are about the transition from the legacy schemes into the new schemes. The rural support plan will give us the information, knowledge, strategy, direction and everything else that will take us, post that, through the next five years.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

Minister, you said a second ago that you hope that things are clear to the committee. I want things to be clear to the committee, but one of the fundamental problems that we discussed during the legislative process for the 2024 act was the rural support plan, which will provide the real detail about what the future strategy for agriculture looks like. Here you are telling me that the Scottish statutory instruments will come in the autumn but that the rural support plan will not come until the winter, which could be only a couple of months before the new sections of the agri act kick in in 2026 and only a year before most of the major elements of your strategy come in in 2027. Why is it so late? Surely we should already have that plan and we should be discussing it now.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I am still not clear. We are moving to a four-tier system, which will, in effect, start next year with tier 1, which still involves direct payments. You have talked about a 70:30 split, and you have announced your support of £14 million and your £20 million over 20 years. However, the rural support plan will give us the entire strategy for five years from 2027. We are 10 months from 2026 and we do not have a clear picture of what 2027 to 2032 looks like.

I would have thought that that was quite an important document to set out for our parliamentary scrutiny and more widely for the industry. I get the point that there may be no great surprises in it, but the rural support plan is about setting everything out in one cohesive message, as required by law. Is that not correct?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I beg your pardon.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

That is fine.

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