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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

That is because it is messy.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

Perhaps I have not explained myself well. My point is about the rural support plan, not about the detail. I thought that the idea behind the rural support plan was that it would underpin all the new grant schemes and that it would be a document that showed the Scottish Government’s outcomes so that farmers could apply for support that fits the outcomes that you are looking for. Without that document, it feels as if we cannot do that, because your route map does not give that level of detail.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I do not want to come off as negative this morning, minister—I agree with you on some of this stuff, but I want to press you on the clarity and detail of the vision. The list of measures under tier 2 is expansive, and one of the arguments against the current greening model is that it is restrictive. In my head, I have the old land managers options scheme, whereby people could pick and choose what worked for them, exactly as you said. Do you have an idea of how those measures will be delivered in the new model?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I have a quick question on the cost of that work. Minister, what do you estimate the potential cost of any changes to the IT system will be? For clarity, is that money already in the budget? Do you know where the money would come from for any changes?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I do not dispute that that is the overall aim and, potentially, one of the benefits of technology, but history tells us that these things can cost a huge amount of money. I am looking for a commitment that that will not be taken out of the existing agricultural budgets and that, if money is needed for technology, it will be provided separately—or that that will be a separate budget discussion.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I get that and I am very sympathetic to it; it is a much better way of doing things. It is good to get clarity that that is the vision.

This is a technical point: we have had NVZs—nitrate vulnerable zones—for years and we have had to work out calculations about them. That was based on the fact that, in the old days, fertiliser was cheap, huge amounts of fertilising went on and there was pollution of water courses. That is not so true now. Is the code of practice likely to supersede the NVZ system? I imagine that the code of practice will say something about nutrient management. Is that system outdated now, or are you likely to continue NVZs in the future?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

I want to pick up on a couple of points about the code. You say that there has been feedback from all those people. Is that feedback publicly available, or is it feedback that comes to you but that we cannot see, read or hear about?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

Can I ask one more quick question?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Tim Eagle

Just for the record—I think that you nodded—will you confirm that there will definitely be no penalty in 2025 and that there would just be a warning letter.