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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I agree with that. It is about making sure that there are no initial barriers. I am pleased that you are thinking about options. We have an incredible amount of talent out there and some experienced people.

Quite a lot of international guests come to Scotland. I do not know whether you can put it on record yet or whether you have thought about it, but I presume that we might be able to do something along the lines of allowing them to come and there being no need for them to do any further stuff, assuming they are accompanied by someone who is fit and competent by our law.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Okay. That is fine.

Elena Whitham asked a good question. We talk a lot about the upland context, but we do not talk enough about the lowland context, which is much more problematic. If we want to achieve the reduction of deer numbers, for the purposes of nature restoration or whatever it is, we do not want to have barriers. Have you thought about having a referee scheme or a grandfather rights-type scheme for the fit and competent element that, at least in the interim, could help those in the sector to officiate one another until we can get an official standard? Do you know what that official thing will be?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Section 28 of the bill will allow people to register as being authorised to carry out activities that require authorisation from NatureScot. In what cases would one-off authorisations outside the register be granted?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

This is quite a niche question. In our session with the previous panel, we asked about a situation in which a control scheme is in place and the land is being sold, and what the impact of that could be. I imagine that that will not come up much, but does anybody have any comments on whether that is the right approach?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

We had a wee discussion about authorisations in the earlier evidence session. Comments on sections 24 to 28 on authorisations, the impact of the provisions on deer management, the register of competence, one-off authorisations and emergency uses of authorisation would be very welcome.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I have one more quick question. Would it be better to change “have regard to” in the bill to “comply with” because that might give certainty to stakeholders? Also, as the convener mentioned, would it have been better if a draft code had been published along with the bill, because the framework nature of the bill means that we do not really know what we are talking about here?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I have to clip my little flock of sheep soon, and, a bit like that, it all seems just a wee bit woolly for me. It is about clarity and understanding. Earlier, you mentioned case studies and the code of practice. With regard to what restoration means for one holding and then the holding next to it, and so on, will you give the guarantee that you will put not just case studies but clear guidance with the code of practice and work with the sector to ensure that we know what it means?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

I have a couple of final questions. The first is around the business and regulatory impact assessment, or BRIA. I have not yet seen one or found one. Do you know whether that has been done or is being done? When we might see that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

The issue here is about overreaching. It is not about the impacts of section 8 not being adhered to. If a new owner were to come in and say, “I agree with all of that,” in order for the land sale to proceed, because the land price could be affected, should the bill provide that NatureScot could de-escalate the requirement to an agreement, rather than the land having to be sold with a control scheme in place? Does that make sense?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Tim Eagle

Good morning. This is an interesting discussion. Part of the problem with framework bills is that they are not defined. The stakeholders do not know what is going on. I have a few questions about the code of practice, because I think that it will be instrumental in helping everyone to understand what the bill will do. Section 12 of the bill will change when NatureScot can review compliance with and the effectiveness of the code of practice for deer management. How will you decide when is an appropriate time to carry out a review?