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Meeting of the Parliament

Decision Time

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Christine Grahame

On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I am terribly sorry to return to something that I raised last week, but I seek your guidance. Once again, at decision time we have only three Conservative members in the chamber. I wonder whether you would consider looking at the issue of attendance at Parliament in person rather than remotely, unless there is good reason for it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Christine Grahame

He seems to be quite open to that.

I noticed that you said that the Scottish SPCA as an enforcement agency can only go off its own bat following a complaint. However, Mr Brignal tried to give us the impression—that wording is perhaps unkind. Mr Brignal said that the welfare of the animals at his track was much better than perhaps the welfare of those at GBGB ones, because those were amateurs racing well-looked-after animals—they were like family pets and so on. However, at the licensed tracks in England, where a lot of money is involved, the dogs are more like commodities than pets.

Mr Brignal gave us his opinion that, in fact, the animals that race at his track are well kept at home. I challenged him and said that he did not really know whether that is the case.

You said that you had to go to a home address. What did you find, given that you mentioned that the bare-minimum standards had been met?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Christine Grahame

They are kennelled all the time.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Christine Grahame

How do the dogs get here? Is there an organisation that does that, or do individuals just get in touch with somebody to purchase them?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Christine Grahame

All the time? They get out for a little bit of exercise, toileting and so on and that is it?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Christine Grahame

However, given that that is the case, should we perhaps ask Mr Brignal to invite the Scottish SPCA to come out?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Christine Grahame

I want to follow up an issue. I am just searching the Official Report for evidence that was given by Paul Brignal, who is the proprietor of Thornton. He said:

“We would more than welcome the SSPCA if it wanted to come. In fact, we have written to Mike Flynn, saying, “You’ve had every opportunity to come and visit our track.” He eventually came to the track with Professor Dwyer. I do not think he was in any way concerned about anything that went on at the track”.—[Official Report, Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, 26 April 2023; c 50.]

Do you know anything about that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Christine Grahame

Right.

Have you had any other issues with owners of greyhounds who race them in this amateur fashion at Thornton?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Christine Grahame

Perhaps there is confusion here rather than our being misled.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Christine Grahame

I have been itching to get in, because there is something that we have not emphasised in our interrogation. Evidence from the Dogs Trust shows that 85 per cent of greyhounds are

“typically born and raised to a year old in the Republic of Ireland”.

Obviously, UK and Scottish legislation pertains in this jurisdiction, unless there is an arrangement with the Republic of Ireland. However, our committee papers state that, under the Irish legislation,

“A person is permitted to allow a bitch to produce 6 litters, a maximum of 2 extra is allowed with permission. Greyhound Breeding Establishments are kept on a register by the Irish Coursing Club ... and all litters must be registered. However, it states there is no independent verification of the number born in a litter, and there is little available information about levels of enforcement or monitoring.”

The Irish Council Against Blood Sports states:

“Greyhound racing is inherently cruel, based as it is on”—

I emphasise this point—

“over-breeding greyhounds, choosing the fastest and getting rid of those who don’t make the grade. Many of those too slow to win races are mercilessly killed. Most greyhounds used in the UK are bred in the Republic of Ireland.”

We have focused, quite rightly, on the track and the conditions that the dogs live in at home, but let us go right back to the beginning and consider the condition that the pups are in when they are imported. I would like the witnesses to comment on that, because we are digging deeper into the issue of the welfare of the animals. It might be appropriate to contrast the situation with greyhounds with that of horses. I do not know whether we are able to track the breeding of horses that come over from Ireland and do a comparison; that might not be relevant. In any case, I would like you to comment on what I have said, because I did not appreciate that about 80 per cent of the dogs that are raced in the UK come from Ireland.