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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 11 May 2023

Christine Grahame

To ask the Scottish Government what measures can be taken to accelerate the prosecution of criminal cases. (S6O-02221)

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 11 May 2023

Christine Grahame

I thank the cabinet secretary for her answer. As the main witness in a trial for threatening behaviour to me, I had to give evidence on incidents spanning from 2017 to 2020, the trial having been deferred from 2022 to earlier this year. The case against Peter Morris was found to be not proven. No one can determine that the outcome was due to delays in prosecution, but what data is there regarding a possible connection between delays in the prosecution process and conviction rates?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Christine Grahame

I want to pick up on Jim Fairlie’s comments. Fish are sentient, and they feel pain. It is not a sudden death. I am not talking about them having a heart attack and dying; it is a painful process when fish die in factory farms. If there was 25 per cent mortality in a flock of 400 sheep, that would mean saying goodbye to 100 of them. That puts the dynamics of it into some kind of perspective.

I absolutely support salmon farming in Scotland, but I want it to be done with the welfare of the animals at heart as well as the production of a good product. There are then the ancillary matters that Edward Mountain mentioned—we have accidentally become a team. The antibiotics that are put in to combat the conditions in which the fish are kept and that lead to an increase in the lice are, in fact, a bad thing in themselves.

I just wanted to make that comment in reflecting on what my colleague Jim Fairlie said, because I do not find the figure of 25 per cent acceptable. Convener, if there is a 10 per cent drop off in livestock, out of 400 sheep, we would have 40 of them perishing. I cannot imagine that that is correct by a long shot.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Christine Grahame

It is a bit unfair if it is just an official, because, if anything quasi-political came up, they would be in an invidious position. It is up to the Government to send somebody—if not a cabinet secretary, a minister, and if they are accompanied by officials, that is all good and well.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Christine Grahame

I will move on to the issue of mortality, but I will start with a quote from the review by Professor Griggs that was published in February 2022. He stated:

“Throughout the evidence gathering stage of this review a lot of what I have heard and seen resonates with other reviews of this type I have carried out.”

He went on:

“However in all the reviews I have conducted over the years, there are two characteristics that I have never come across before”.

One of those was:

“All the people and organisations that I have met with or had input from think that the current regulatory system for aquaculture is not fit for purpose”.

That is significant. This is a man who has done lots of reviews, and that seems to have taken him by surprise. It is quite a shocking statement.

That brings me on to mortality. I am interested in the welfare of animals, and we are talking about the factory farming of fin fish. What are the most recent figures for the mortality rate in salmon farming?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Christine Grahame

This is a new game to me, but I understand that major international companies are involved. Who are those companies? They are not small businesses; they are major international companies. Can you name them for me? I do not know who they are.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Christine Grahame

Yes—who are the key international companies that do factory salmon farming in Scotland?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Christine Grahame

Those companies are actually monitoring themselves and providing the data. They may have a mandatory obligation in law, but they are not independently assessed to establish whether the data is correct.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Christine Grahame

So, it is the records that are inspected.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Christine Grahame

This is my final point, as I know that others may want to come in. Let us say that I accept the figure of 25 per cent, although others may or may not. Are you content with that figure for animal welfare purposes?