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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

Does that mean that there would be a legal remedy beyond the appeal procedure? Could a solicitor say that they were going to seek an interim interdict, or a suspension of the revocation of the licence, to try to prevent that from happening? I am trying to follow a process that would be fair to the landowner and to the acting agent. Would there be other remedies, apart from the appeal procedure?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

It just struck me that practically everything you can get, you want to prevent.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

Are we on to question 9?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

I was losing the will to live there for a moment as we went round in circles on codes of practice.

The minister was quite right to say that most land management is done appropriately—it is just the odd case that causes difficulty, if I can put it in my own way. However, every business will now have to comply with everything. How did you come to the conclusion that there will be little to no impact on businesses that currently comply with the law?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

I have been waving my hand at you, convener.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

If you want to burn land that has a peat layer to a depth of more than 40cm, you will need to declare that—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

Let us imagine that a piece of land meets the chemical and depth definitions. Will applicants get guidance as they make their applications to NatureScot so that applicants can say, “Here is my bit of land. Do I have to apply?” The bill refers to

“the land to which the application relates”,

so, if an applicant has to specify that—I presume that they provide acreage or a map or something—will NatureScot say, “You don’t need to bother. That does not meet the definition of peatland”? I am talking about acreage or size.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

That is what I am getting at.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

I am looking at what the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission does. It said:

“We looked at snares generically, but we have also looked at humane or modified cable restraints. The basic operation of the snare is the same whether it is modified or not ... We looked at that and we could not see any fundamental difference between the manner of operating of the conventional type and that of the new type.”—[Official Report, Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, 14 June 2023; c 60.]

I have two questions. First, why do you not simply come out and say, “We will go with the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission”? That is why it was set up.

Secondly, let us say that you try to ban the sale of snares. Have you raised that issue in relation to the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 or are you raising it in advance with your UK counterpart? It is a case of not just possession and use but sale. The same issue will arise.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Christine Grahame

The sentence that follows the table of detailed stats that the Scottish Government provided in the letter to us simply stated:

“Information provided by the National Wildlife Crime Unit shows the land use category most associated with raptor persecution incidents is grouse moors.”

It would be helpful to the committee to expand—perhaps not now but in a further letter—on what that information is and to give us some detail. It would help our understanding of that assertion if that point were expanded on.