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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

Obviously, the budget for the next financial year has still to be published and agreed, but I should point out that the changes that SPS made to its throughcare arrangements date back to 2019. I am ensuring that the calendar years 2024 and 2025 will be our implementation period for the Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Act 2023. I do not need to rehearse the arguments that were made in this committee on underpinning the focus on throughcare and on starting to plan for people’s release on admission to prison, if they are subject to remand or a determinate sentence.

I will undoubtedly come back to Parliament to discuss how we address our rising prison population, but I am strongly of the view that the actions that we take to address that issue now must also address it in the future. The approaches that we adopt must be not just short-term responses but for the longer term.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

Yes, and that is the point that I was making. It is in my interests—I am particularly motivated on this—to see those final design plans as soon as possible, so that we can then have a more definitive—

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

Yes. Then we will have a more definitive view of cost, and once we know costs we can plan accordingly, but it is an absolute priority.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

I have already indicated that the new HMP Glasgow is a priority, and it is a high priority. Decisions will, of course, have to be made about the phasing of resources. It is not a one-year project or investment. However, I do not think that anybody is under any misapprehension that we will not have to replace the somewhat Victorian HMP Barlinnie.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

I am pleased to hear that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

Bear in mind that the Crown Office writes to the committee regularly and I, too, have written to Mr Findlay on this matter, again supplying a great deal of information, notwithstanding the importance of the separation of powers to the very fabric of justice and democracy.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

I am conscious that many organisations, including the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, have submitted their evidence to the committee and much of that is based on the resource spending review of May 2022. I point to the fact that the current year’s budget was in a better place than the resource spending review that was published in May last year. I will continue to do my best to argue and negotiate for the best possible deal for all justice organisations.

As with any estimate of savings that will have to be made, they are based on various assumptions, whether around inflation, pay increases, future financial commitments and budgets, all of which are variables that can change. We have seen that with this year’s budget, because we have seen some of the highest levels of inflation in more than a generation, which has had an impact on the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service and other justice organisations.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

It is important to acknowledge that this is not so much a resource issue and is much more an issue of recruitment, which exists across the UK. When I visited Inveraray fire station a month or so ago, people there spoke about the challenges for rural communities, particularly with recruitment and retention of retained firefighters. We are actively engaged with the SFRS on what more can be done on recruitment and how to more effectively recruit and retain staff.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

I will not argue with you that we have had a decade of austerity, which has had an impact on the decisions that we could make and decisions that we will be able to make. As I pointed out in an earlier answer, I will always do my best to negotiate the best possible deal for all justice organisations. Our discussions within Government are intense on these matters, particularly bearing in mind the volume of pre-budget evidence that has been submitted to the committee.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 8 November 2023

Angela Constance

I think that there are very pragmatic arguments in favour of enabling, as you have suggested, voluntary organisations to be put on a more secure and stable footing. Indeed, we have adopted that approach with the victim-centred approach fund, which is worth £48 million over three years.

However, I want to be up front and direct with the committee: the fact is that multiyear funding is somewhat challenging when you have to operate with single-year budgeting. Perhaps I can give you an overview of the justice portfolio budget. Well over 70 per cent of it goes towards staffing costs, and we have had what are obviously very welcome pay increases for front-line staff. That leaves us with around 15 to 20 per cent to meet our statutory commitments, and around 5 per cent going towards voluntary organisations.