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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 March 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

I always try very hard to be sensitive and compassionate and to take on board the views of all victims. I would never for a minute deny victims the opportunity to speak to their truth.

You will, of course, appreciate that, in this role and in my previous roles, I have engaged extensively with victims who have been traumatised by offences in relation to which people have been brought to justice or in relation to which justice has not been done. I recognise that victims always have a range of views. Many victims have told me that they are supportive of the work that I have done, particularly through the victims legislation. I engage extensively with victim survivors and, crucially, their families.

I am very sorry that Taylor and her mum feel the way that they do. It is not for me to deny or reinterpret in any way their views on me or on any other matter.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

You almost took the words out of my mouth, Mr Mason. We do not have many High Court judges in Scotland. Other legal jurisdictions are very different in that they are flatter; some European jurisdictions have many more judges per head. We do not have many judges in Scotland, so there is a pressure if too many judges are removed from their day-to-day work.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

I do, Mr O’Kane. Have I been flawless? No. Have I had cause to reflect, with the benefit of hindsight? Yes. Over the course of my decade as a social worker and during my time as a parliamentarian, I have never shied away from discussing or confronting some of the most difficult topics and issues in our society.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

It is not something that I have been in the practice of doing, but—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

As you say, when Mr Kerr spoke to amendments 30 to 32, he was reflective and he made some detailed remarks. He spoke to the work of the Casey review in England and Wales. I made the remark on the public record, in response to a subsequent supplementary to an urgent question that I was answering, that I regretted deeply that there had been a mischaracterisation of Mr Kerr’s amendments. As he acknowledged at the time, the effect of his amendments would not have been to establish a public inquiry into grooming gangs. I find it a wee bit ironic that, in a debate that is about accuracy, his amendments have been mischaracterised.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

You can see the value that work in justice brings to this if you look at, for example, online harms. We will have a debate in Parliament this afternoon on cybersecurity and the threats in that area. There are threats to the protection of children, but there are also other implications, for example for national security and our economy.

I have already spoken to the work of the serious organised crime task force. One strand of its work has been focused on the criminal exploitation of children. Practical guidance flowed from that work, as well as a change in the law, on which we worked with the United Kingdom Government. I can provide more detail on that if the committee is interested in it.

I also contend that the context of all of this is the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill and the debate that took place on that. The significant reforms in that bill will now have to be implemented, particularly for child and adult survivors of sexual abuse. My focus was on delivering the sexual offences court to ensure that our justice system becomes more trauma informed and that it minimises the retraumatisation of victims and witnesses when they are going through the court process. That is part of the wider work to support and encourage victims to be able to have the confidence to come forward and report offences that have occurred, either recently or in the past. When I was Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning, I attended the launch of Police Scotland’s national child abuse investigation unit.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

I think so. I am having to stretch back over a number of years.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

No.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

Yes.