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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 October 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

That is interesting. I have no more questions.

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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

Good morning. I thank the witnesses for coming to today’s meeting. What you have said is very interesting. To narrow the discussion down a little, I will start with part 1 of the bill. You have given the committee your overall opinions, but what are your views on part 1 of the bill, which defines the leases to which the legislation will apply? We will start from the other side of the table this time—Dr Skilling, I will let you go first.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

This has been very interesting, gentlemen. We have had calls to try to create parity for tenants and landlords with regard to notice, but I get the feeling from what you say that parity might actually cause a split. I do not want to put words in your mouth, however, so it would be interesting to get your opinion on that.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

Is there anything that other witnesses wish to add on this point?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

Thank you for that. You have both given me your opinion on whether the act should be repealed. Has there been enough consultation on the proposal? Has there been enough engagement and understanding to justify slipping the repeal of the 1949 act into the bill? Are we in the right place for such a decision to be made?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

Thank you.

Stacey, you talked about there still being an imbalance between landlords and tenants. The assumption is that the act is primarily used by larger businesses, such as larger supermarkets, rather than smaller shops. Is the act working as intended? What imbalances are you seeing?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

I did not want to not give you the opportunity to answer the question, if you wanted to. That is all, convener.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

Should the bill apply equally to premises covered by the electronic communications code, electricity substations and that sort of thing? Do you see those similarly to how you see rural matters, or should this law apply to them?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

Part 1 sets out where it would be applied. I am wondering whether you have any views on that.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Roz McCall

I want to ask about a pet issue of mine—the view that the bill should be amended to repeal the Tenancy of Shops (Scotland) Act 1949. I would be really interested to know what you think about that.