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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

You can register at any time. However, that also means that, if businesses are not sure that they will be ready for 16 August or they have not decided, they can apply for an exemption, if that is applicable to them. For example, if the owner of a small cafe thinks that they cannot deal with the scheme this year and they apply for an exemption, they could reapply later to be a return point. It is not a permanent decision.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

The member is absolutely right. The scheme has to work for every person in Scotland because every person in Scotland will pay their 20p and so they need to be able to get it back easily and conveniently. That is how the scheme is intended to work.

At the moment, exemption is an opt-out process. By default, all businesses that sell the containers are obliged to be return points. Therefore, any convenience store in a small town or on an island where you can buy drinks also has to be a return point unless it is exempt.

It is absolutely the intention that that will be the mechanism in small rural and remote areas. The place where someone buys their juice should also be the place where they return the item. The proximity exemptions are much more likely to apply in urban areas where a group of shops are close together. They will not apply in rural areas where there is only one shop, for example.

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Circularity Scotland and Biffa are very conscious of “black spots”, which is the industry term. As the registrations for return points come in, they will monitor the situation very closely and engage with any businesses that appear to be in a black spot to ensure that there are adequate return points. I believe that Biffa is also looking at the possibility of mobile return points to collect from very rural areas.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

The issue is common to how schemes around the world work.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

I do not.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

We will do what we can on that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

That is premature. The Scottish Government has been following, and continues to follow, the agreed process for excluding the DRS regulations from the internal market act.

Euan Page is the expert on that issue, so I will give you what I know on it and then he can add some detail.

Whether there is an exclusion is not at the whim of the UK Government. The exclusions from the internal market act are agreed under common frameworks. The frameworks are an agreed process by which the devolved Administrations in the UK protect their powers in respect of devolved matters. The resources and waste framework is there to protect the Scottish Government’s ability to legislate in devolved areas. Under that framework, we have put together the evidence and the case that the matter that we are considering—our deposit return scheme—is fully a devolved matter, which it is. It clearly is a fully devolved matter, and we have presented that evidence through the agreed process to the UK Government. Those are the stages that we have gone through to get an exclusion.

Euan Page will be able to add much more detail.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

The two things—the climate and nature emergencies—have now been incorporated and are being considered together, and there is a variety of forums in which that work is happening. There is, for example, the sub-committee on the climate emergency, which is meeting this morning, unfortunately—obviously, I am here and not there—and there is also the First Minister’s environmental council, which is another good forum that is attended not only by ministers but by experts from the field.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

I do not have any further information on the timeframe. I am not sure whether we can commit to a timeframe, but I will ask my officials to confirm.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

Spatial planning, both terrestrial and marine, is about balancing competing interests so that we have a thriving economy and thriving nature alongside it. It is clear that, in the past, the balance between competing interests has been wrong, to the serious detriment of our natural environment. Our strategy is clear that our high-level goals of being nature positive by 2030 and substantially restoring nature by 2045 will require that whole-of-society approach.

As regards spatial planning in the marine space, Scotland’s national marine plan provides the guiding framework for decision making in the sustainable management of marine activities and resources in Scotland’s waters. I might ask Lisa McCann and Matthew Bird to provide more detail on spatial planning in both those spaces.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Lorna Slater

I agree that we await with interest the results of the review. We will consider the panel’s recommendations carefully and will share those and our response with the committee in due course.