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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Sue Webber

I will dip in and out.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Sue Webber

Graham, you have perhaps portrayed me as some anti-sustainable transport guru and I am not. I am very much a believer in making public transport accessible to all. That is where my challenge comes from.

In relation to the active travel agenda, I am passionate about eco-ableism and have grave concerns that many active travel policies discriminate against disabled people and people with mobility issues. As you will know if you watched my committee contributions on Tuesday, I also have concerns about sweeping statements about going from walking to wheeling. There is a lot in the range of mobility from walking to wheeling.

Are you involving groups in the CPG that will help the voices of people with mobility issues to be heard? Will people who are disabled, are blind or have hearing and mobility impairments be represented on the CPG? Without their voices, it does not matter what reports are presented, you will create more inequalities in society.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Sue Webber

I am concerned that the voice of cycling will be overrepresented and I want to ensure that there is balance. I have had, and continue to have, that challenge in Edinburgh, where 40km of cycle lanes have created 40km of road space that people with disabled badges can no longer access. I will be gravely concerned if the CPG’s membership does not reflect a more balanced view and include people with mobility issues.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Sue Webber

Let me know whether this is in scope—I am not sure whether it is. I have a half-urban and half-rural constituency in that it includes the Pentland hills, so I get a lot of questions about the balance between the right to access and the right to roam and the need to do those things in a responsible way. Just out of curiosity, is that something that your proposed group might consider?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Sue Webber

I have an issue with the CPG on sustainable transport. The “Highway Code” is changing this week to reinforce the point that pedestrians are top of the transport hierarchy, but they are poorly represented in the cross-party group. There are only two organisations that represent them, against nine for cyclists and 10 for the rail sector. There needs to be far more representation from pedestrians groups and those that represent people with mobility issues and disabilities. That is my grave concern.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Sue Webber

To pick up on the gender issue, I am more of a hockey player, which probably distracts me a little from joining the group. However, I am very aware of the benefits of team sport and of how that can be a great leveller in tackling inequalities. I have a lot of connections, even with rugby clubs in Edinburgh. Currie Chieftains have a great women’s set-up, and I know that women’s rugby in the city is thriving. Spartans, too—

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Sue Webber

Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Sue Webber

I would be interested to hear your comments about the 20-minute neighbourhood being about more than active travel. How, in your mind, does national planning framework 4 account for the needs and experiences of disabled people? The 39km or 40km of segregated cycle lanes that have been put down in Edinburgh under the premise of spaces for people have caused a lot of concern for disabled people and those with mobility issues. What can be done to build more inclusive settlements?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Virtual)

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Sue Webber

I have one more question, which is on an issue that Irene Beautyman also alluded to. One of the stated aims of the national planning framework is to increase the density of settlements. However, through the pandemic we have come to understand the value of green spaces in our urban areas. How will the need to support active travel and public transport be balanced with protecting our green spaces, which might be the spaces that are used to create active travel routes?

Perhaps that can go to Professor Pearce.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee (Virtual)

Health and Wellbeing of Children and Young People

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Sue Webber

It has been an informative session. I declare an interest as a councillor in the City of Edinburgh Council. As a mad keen hockey fan and umpire, I have seen at first hand the role that sports clubs and their teams and volunteers can play in addressing those inequalities. I get the sense that it is the hard work of clubs rather than policy that assists with that. I am trying to figure this out in my head. Do you get a sense that the Scottish Government’s focus on supporting equity in schools is dovetailing with other policies that support the health and wellbeing of deprived communities and families?