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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
Who is that question directed to, Stephanie?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
Oh, sorry.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
We will now take evidence from our second panel on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. I welcome to the meeting Martin Crewe, director of Barnardo’s Scotland, and Jude Currie, chair of the Scottish Association of Social Work. Good morning to both of you, and thank you for joining us. Our session is hybrid, and Jude Currie is participating virtually. Jude, as you will not be able to catch my eye, please put an R in the chat box when you wish to speak. The clerks will be monitoring the chat box, and we will bring you in when we can.
Let us move straight to members’ questions. We will start with questions from Stephanie Callaghan.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
Thank you. We move to questions from Graeme Dey, who will carry on with the theme of integration.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
I see that Vicky Irons is keen to come in.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
Ross McGuffie from North Lanarkshire health and social care partnership is keen to come in.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
We will move on to Stephen Kerr, who has questions on the general principles of the bill.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
Stephen, I wonder if I could try to get the witnesses to reflect on the point that we are here to consider the potential inclusion of children’s services. I would be interested if the witnesses could respond through that lens when they are commenting and answering questions. That would be really helpful. However, please feel free to broaden the discussion.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
There are lots of views.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 16 November 2022
Sue Webber
I have a question. We talked about some of the issues with staff. Do you think that your members of staff—well, the IJB staff members are not yours; I am thinking of the people who work in and deliver the services that are commissioned by the IJBs—are aware of the pending workforce changes that are ahead of them? They are perhaps moving towards a change in their employer. What sort of challenges do you foresee in transferring property and liabilities from local authorities to the care boards?
Who would like to go first on that one? I will ask Nicky Connor to go first, if possible, because she talked about having a one board, one council approach.