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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

I am looking at the clock. We have a few more sections to cover, so is it okay if we move on, Ross?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 27th meeting in 2022 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. The first item on our agenda is an evidence session on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. We will hear from two panels of witnesses. I welcome our first panel: Jackie Irvine, who is chief executive of the Care Inspectorate; Claire Burns, who is the director of CELCIS; Councillor Tony Buchanan, who is a councillor on East Renfrewshire Council and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities spokesperson on children and young people; and Mike Burns, who is assistant chief officer at Glasgow City Council and vice-convener of Social Work Scotland.

As you would expect, we have a lot of ground to cover, so we will move straight to members’ questions, starting with Stephen Kerr.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

Stephanie Callaghan also has some questions on this topic.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

Stephen Kerr has a supplementary question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

I have a follow-up question, and I am not sure which of the panel members is best placed to answer it.

While the national care service is being designed—and we hear a lot about that: it is being co-produced, and a consultation will take place—where should the Government’s forward planning focus be? That is a bit of a vague question. Where should the Government’s focus be while it is designing the national care service? The Government still has to provide children’s services while the NCS is being designed, so where should the Government’s focus be in relation to existing children’s services?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

You are not very good at making the briefest of comments.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

On that, with the clear message about making things simpler, we will draw to a close. I thank Iain Nisbet, Cameron-Wong McDermott and Fraser McKinlay for joining us. We will consider our final agenda items in private.

12:18 Meeting continued in private until 12:59.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

You spoke about the human rights-based approach. What are the risks of having a partial impact assessment at this stage? What are the human rights concerns about working in that way?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

Bob, please move on to your questions on kinship.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Sue Webber

There was a lot in your answer, Cameron-Wong. Members will pick up on many of those topics separately in their questions. Impact assessments are a particular example. I ask Stephanie Callaghan to continue with the human rights theme.

11:15