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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Sue Webber

I thank all the witnesses for their time and the evidence that they have shared with us. I apologise for some of the hybrid meeting hiccups—we have kind of forgotten how to do it.

We will have a short suspension, and I will reconvene the meeting in 10 minutes’ time.

11:21 Meeting suspended.  

11:32 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Sue Webber

On-going monitoring.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Sue Webber

The next petition on our agenda is PE1692, which was lodged by Lesley Scott and Alison Preuss on behalf of Tymes Trust and the Scottish Home Education Forum. The petition calls on the Scottish Government to initiate an independent public inquiry into the impact on human rights of the routine gathering and sharing of citizens’ personal information, on which its getting it right for every child—GIRFEC—policy relies.

The committee previously considered the petition in May. The committee heard that, in January 2020, the Deputy First Minister and then Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills had said that guidance and material to support information-sharing practice were being developed. In May, the committee agreed to write to the current Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills to seek an update on timescales for the publication of that guidance.

The cabinet secretary confirmed that refreshed material has been published and explained that the refreshed material, including the statutory guidance for the assessment of wellbeing, were co-produced by working groups including practitioners from relevant sectors, that the statutory guidance on the assessment of wellbeing was subject to a public consultation, and that the remaining documents, including on the role of the named person and information sharing, were subject to direct engagement with key stakeholders.

In the petitioners’ submission, they argued that the cabinet secretary’s submission is irrelevant to the purpose of the petition. That is because the petition calls for a retrospective and independent public inquiry into the impact on human rights of the routine gathering and sharing of citizens’ personal information in relation to the GIRFEC policy and is not about addressing

“possible future harm through any ‘refreshed material’.”

Do members have any comments?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Sue Webber

Wendy Brownlie, are you able to respond now?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Sue Webber

I know that Carrie Lindsay wants to comment, so maybe she can be the first to answer my question. I am from the Lothians, and that is the area that I represent. We attract a lot of commuters and we get people coming in from all the surrounding local authority areas. Margot Black said that there are no catchments for nurseries, which we all know. Should we be considering provision that crosses local authority borders? I have someone in my area who lives in Edinburgh but works in East Lothian, and they cannot pick up or drop off their child around their working time.

Following on from that, there is a perception that families have to use the local nursery that is nearest to them. Communication on how broad based and open the provision perhaps is is not reaching the ground, and we have a lot of confusion and misunderstanding. I am curious about your thoughts on that. If you do not mind, Carrie, I will put you on the spot and ask you to answer that first, and maybe you can respond to Ruth Maguire’s questions at the same time.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Sue Webber

Wendy, would you like to come in now?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Sue Webber

Oh dear. Let us wait to see whether we get the connection back.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Sue Webber

Margot Black, would you like to respond to Graeme Dey’s point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny: Early Learning and Childcare

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Sue Webber

We move to questions from Ruth Maguire.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Sue Webber

I like a yes or no answer—it is good to be concise.