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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Do you want to answer that question first, Louise, before we go back to Fiona? I know that Ross McGuffie wants to come in, too.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

The Derek Feeley report gave no indication at all of the inclusion of children’s services, so it came as quite a surprise that those services are covered.

You briefly mentioned the co-production of services. Given that co-production will probably happen after the legislation comes into force, do you see that being a challenge? Ross McGuffie alluded to co-design being bolted on earlier. Will you comment on the cart-before-horse approach to the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Thank you. We move to questions from Michael Marra.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Thank you. We move to questions from Graeme Dey, who will carry on with the theme of integration.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

I see that Vicky Irons is keen to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Ross McGuffie from North Lanarkshire health and social care partnership is keen to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

We will move on to Stephen Kerr, who has questions on the general principles of the bill.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

Stephen, I wonder if I could try to get the witnesses to reflect on the point that we are here to consider the potential inclusion of children’s services. I would be interested if the witnesses could respond through that lens when they are commenting and answering questions. That would be really helpful. However, please feel free to broaden the discussion.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

There are lots of views.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 November 2022

Sue Webber

I have a question. We talked about some of the issues with staff. Do you think that your members of staff—well, the IJB staff members are not yours; I am thinking of the people who work in and deliver the services that are commissioned by the IJBs—are aware of the pending workforce changes that are ahead of them? They are perhaps moving towards a change in their employer. What sort of challenges do you foresee in transferring property and liabilities from local authorities to the care boards?

Who would like to go first on that one? I will ask Nicky Connor to go first, if possible, because she talked about having a one board, one council approach.