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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

I call Kaukab Stewart.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

This might seem to be a bit of a shift in approach, but we will move on to some questions from Ross Greer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

I see that Laura Pasternak is nodding—do you want to come in first, Laura?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

There are lots of shaking heads.

I am conscious of the time. We are getting some really excellent information, but I ask witnesses to do what they can to make their answers and responses concise. I know that committee members will do all they can to keep their questions as concise as possible.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

There are lots of nodding heads. Meg Thomas and Sheriff Mackie want to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Questions on some of those threads are coming from colleagues.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you very much. We will move on to questions from Ross Greer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Would any decrease in the numbers that are coming into your institutions lead to a positive impact on the Prison Service’s ability to provide care and support for the young people who are in its care? Perhaps Sue Brookes can respond to that first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Good morning, and welcome to the 11th meeting in 2023 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. Under our first agenda item, we will take evidence on the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill.

Two panels of witnesses are joining us today. I welcome our first panel: Alison Gough, director of the Good Shepherd Centre; Kevin Northcott, deputy chief executive officer of Rossie Young People’s Trust; Claire Lunday, headteacher at St Mary’s Kenmure Secure Care Centre; Gerald Michie, governor of HM Young Offenders Institution Polmont, the Scottish Prison Service; and Sue Brookes, interim director for strategy and stakeholder engagement at the Scottish Prison Service.

We have a lot of ground to cover, so we will move straight to members’ questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Sue Webber

Thank you. That is very helpful and should help our members to direct questions to the witnesses with the right expertise.

Will you outline what assessments are made when children enter a YOI or secure care establishment and what services are available immediately to deal with any issues that the children might have? Gerald Michie, do you want to go first?

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