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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 January 2026
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

I go back to the concept in the bill of a movement to proactive publication. You have set out your response to that and the concerns about it. Would the Government support it if a limitation to the specific information that needs to be proactively published was specified through secondary legislation or guidance, or, to look at it the other way, if there were very clear exemptions to proactive publication? Could a process shift the view of the Government on its stance on institutions moving to proactive publication?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful. Interestingly, in its submission, the Law Society of Scotland talked about your lack of power with regard to the inspection of electronic devices and things like that. You have already talked about certain areas in which things need to be tightened up because they were missed or because they just need to be tightened up. Have you considered what other powers you need and whether the bill might be the vehicle to provide you with those powers? Such powers could include the seizure of electronic devices or access to AI databases in California to see what is in them.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

Do you see the designation of freedom of information officers within institutions as an advantage? Do you see the benefit of having such officers as a place for you or the public to go to in the first instance?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

This is potentially beyond the scope of the bill, but is there some value in looking to bring records management, GDPR and freedom of information together in a combined role in order to give people access to information and stop them running into walls—internally, within organisations—that others are defending?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

Annie Wells joins us online. [Interruption.]

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

Is it fair to suggest that that is an example of 20-year-old legislation? That provision was included in the 2002 act because people were concerned about what freedom of information would look like, but, as we look back, we realise that it was an unnecessary use of belt and braces—and probably a second belt, just to make sure.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thank you. I am sorry, Sue.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

The junior officer standing by a shredding machine shredding stuff because they have umpteen copies of it, has nothing to fear.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

Brilliant. Thank you for your evidence this morning. If anything further comes to mind or you want to send anything in, you know how to reach us and vice versa. I call a temporary halt to the meeting for a changeover of witnesses.

09:53 Meeting suspended.  

09:58 On resuming—  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Freedom of Information Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is very helpful.